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re: Drew Brees is the 2nd Most Pressured QB in the NFL
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:21 pm to KindaRaw
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:21 pm to KindaRaw
He has an interception % of 2.38 season, which falls at 9 for a career average
For his career, he's tied with Peyton Manning has an interception % of 2.6% for his career
For his career, he's tied with Peyton Manning has an interception % of 2.6% for his career
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 4:48 pm to TigerBait1127
Drew got his money. He deserves every penny. The failure re: protection fall at the feet of the front office. I no longer trust in Loomis.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:01 pm to Purpleye
Can't blame Loomis on Evans performance/injury/dropoff imo.
Most all-pro HOF-caliber lineman can play at a high level til their mid 30s.
He paid the arguably best guard in the league at the time in 2010 to a 7yr 56.7mil contract that would make him a Saint for life. Came into the league in 2006, signed a 3yr contract, started from day 1. Got the highest RFA tag in 2009 (1st and 3rd), and proceeded to play very well
Went to the superbowl, voted for pro bowl, and selected as a 1st team all-pro in 2009.
Got a big contract at a very young age of 27, continued his great play for 3.5 more seasons after that contract, and was one of the highest rated guards in the league in that span:
2010 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2011 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2012 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2013 - Injury, but bounced back nicely in the 2nd half Pro Bowl/All-Pro (2nd)
2014 - Dead as nails
No one could have predicted the fall/decline in performance. Not when he was playing exceptionally well for the years prior. It isn't like it was some fluke high level of play either, he was annually top 5 rated guy over and over.
Most all-pro HOF-caliber lineman can play at a high level til their mid 30s.
He paid the arguably best guard in the league at the time in 2010 to a 7yr 56.7mil contract that would make him a Saint for life. Came into the league in 2006, signed a 3yr contract, started from day 1. Got the highest RFA tag in 2009 (1st and 3rd), and proceeded to play very well
Went to the superbowl, voted for pro bowl, and selected as a 1st team all-pro in 2009.
Got a big contract at a very young age of 27, continued his great play for 3.5 more seasons after that contract, and was one of the highest rated guards in the league in that span:
2010 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2011 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2012 - Pro Bowl/All-Pro (1st)
2013 - Injury, but bounced back nicely in the 2nd half Pro Bowl/All-Pro (2nd)
2014 - Dead as nails
No one could have predicted the fall/decline in performance. Not when he was playing exceptionally well for the years prior. It isn't like it was some fluke high level of play either, he was annually top 5 rated guy over and over.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:21 pm to htran90
quote:
Can't blame Loomis on Evans performance/injury/dropoff imo.
Most all-pro HOF-caliber lineman can play at a high level til their mid 30s.
Yep, and while he was inconsistent last year, he was still a top level guard who was dominant when healthy.
Everyone thought Jahri's spot would be a huge position of strength for us.
quote:
I no longer trust in Loomis.
We took some risks at corner this year signing Champ as our #2 and it blew up in our face. We all loved the Byrd signing, but in hindsight a 2nd shutdown corner in FA would have been nice.
Not sure what else you can blame him for.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:29 pm to htran90
What is Nicks up to these days? Did he just get fat after his injuries and payday?
ik he signed a settlement agreement, but I wonder if he's trying to make a comeback at all. Payton was always on his arse about his work ethic
ik he signed a settlement agreement, but I wonder if he's trying to make a comeback at all. Payton was always on his arse about his work ethic
Posted on 11/25/14 at 5:39 pm to TigerBait1127
MRSA infection was bad enough it ate into his nerves and he has pain from just simply walking.
For a position that requires immense footwork, he's done for life.
For a position that requires immense footwork, he's done for life.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:48 pm to St Augustine
quote:
What is he in attempts? I'd argue we're throwing far too much at times as well which exacerbates the problem.
It doesn't help either that they haven't been able to run the ball the last 2 games. Penetration allowed by the guards & Goodwin getting blown up isn't allowing for much running room.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:51 pm to htran90
quote:
MRSA infection was bad enough it ate into his nerves and he has pain from just simply walking.
Yeah, the MRSA almost cost him his foot & nerve damage was too much to try to play with. He's done.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:16 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:so Rodgers would rather take a sack than throw an interception?
Sack % rate when pressured of 8% (Aaron Rodgers is at 19.4%)
quote:it would probably be better
While the interceptions are crushing, we wouldn't have a top 20 offense if he was getting sacked
how many interceptions were thrown when brees was pressured?
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:26 pm to jeff5891
quote:
so Rodgers would rather take a sack than throw an interception?
Rodgers throws a lot less than Brees and takes extremely deep drops. He holds onto the ball longer and always has. Brees doesn't have that lux
quote:
would probably be better
We would have lost the Ravens game by 30.
quote:
how many interceptions were thrown when brees was pressured?
Believe he has 7 with three coming in 1 game that we won
He has a lower interception rate this year than his career average despite the huge increase in pressure.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:38 pm to jeff5891
2 vs TB (yeah, lets not go back to that)
1 vs Cleveland (technically as he let go of it, he got hit...so that was bad luck and not bad judgement like the others)
1 vs Detroit (forced it because of pressure)
1 vs Baltimore
So half, and 1-3 in those 4 games. No one is denying he's forcing it, but no one is openly blaming the OL for a piss poor year either.
1 vs Cleveland (technically as he let go of it, he got hit...so that was bad luck and not bad judgement like the others)
1 vs Detroit (forced it because of pressure)
1 vs Baltimore
So half, and 1-3 in those 4 games. No one is denying he's forcing it, but no one is openly blaming the OL for a piss poor year either.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:04 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
179 pressures but only 16 sacks. He's been hit 8 times while throwing
Sack % rate when pressured of 8% (Aaron Rodgers is at 19.4%)
While the interceptions are crushing, we wouldn't have a top 20 offense if he was getting sacked
Is there a link for the source of these stats?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:10 pm to St Augustine
I know it's popular opinion on here to want a corner in the first, but that's a total crap shoot.
If there's one thing the Saints are good at it's developing offensive linemen. That needs to be thoroughly addressed in the draft. Protect Brees and odds are we win much more than we lose.
If there's one thing the Saints are good at it's developing offensive linemen. That needs to be thoroughly addressed in the draft. Protect Brees and odds are we win much more than we lose.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:24 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
It's PFF
Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:43 pm to CocoLoco
CJ Mosley makes my heart ache.
So close, yet so far.
So close, yet so far.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:11 am to htran90
Didn't we lose an all pro Guard because Drew said it wasn't about the money when he turned down 19 mil for 20? And we lost the bid on the Guard who went to Tampa.
So hey Drew, get your 100 million dollar arse up and play. Sorry but I don't think any player is worth 100 mil, name ONE QB who has won the SB after they broke the 100 million dollar bank.
So hey Drew, get your 100 million dollar arse up and play. Sorry but I don't think any player is worth 100 mil, name ONE QB who has won the SB after they broke the 100 million dollar bank.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 7:41 am to TigerBait1127
Certainly has forced the issue on some throws, but that pick six he definitely was under some pressure. He hasn't been able to smoothly step up in the pocket like he has in the past.
He was really on point last game outside of that terrible throw on the pick six.
He was really on point last game outside of that terrible throw on the pick six.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 8:04 am to CocoLoco
The Saints need to draft an OL in the first round for once. When was the last time they took one in the first? I believe the number is zero under Payton but he took two first round RB's.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 10:54 am to TigerBait1127
quote:thats good to see since the pressure has been relentless this year. IMO, sometimes he could have made better decisions in the face of that pressure though.
this year than his career average despite the huge increase in pressure.
dont get me wrong, i do not think he has lost a step. with some of the bombs he has thrown this year and that spin move TD throw, he still has IT. just needs better protection
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