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re: GOP Led Report Debunks Right-Wing Media's Benghazi Hoax

Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:44 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:44 pm to
who the hell is DC?
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:47 pm to
That would be you, since I responded specifically to your posts. The DC instead of the DS was used for a reason, and with effectiveness. Now, did you read the report and appendices or not?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:01 pm to
NH, do you have a link to the report? I would be interested in reading it.
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:05 pm to
Here it is, it's in 12 parts, need to read/download all of them to get the entire picture of the report:

LINK
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:10 pm to
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NHTIGER

Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:16 pm to
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DC, have you read the report and appendices? That would be a yes or no question.

There is no way he read it. Appendix 1 blows his entire argument out of the water.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

That would be you, since I responded specifically to your posts. The DC instead of the DS was used for a reason, and with effectiveness. Now, did you read the report and appendices or not?


If you're not going to refer to me by my handle I'm not going to answer any of your questions
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:41 pm to

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And to Germans me on this after the right wing lies this board has pushed is fricking comical.

you people really are complete hacks


A glorious meltdown
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:42 pm to
The right wing deserves to be exposed on this fake scandal.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:18 pm to
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Here it is, it's in 12 parts, need to read/download all of them to get the entire picture of the report:

LINK
Thank you for the link. I looked for it when the story broke but couldn't find it. So far the executive summary is pretty one sided. Is there a particular section that you found interesting?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:20 pm to
The State Dept. lied about the nature of the assault and the assailents with the clear intent of influencing the election. The setting up and knocking down of strawmen doesn't exonerate HRC.
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:05 am to
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The State Dept. lied about the nature of the assault and the assailents with the clear intent of influencing the election. The setting up and knocking down of strawmen doesn't exonerate HRC.
The House report disagrees wholeheartedly. (Unless you can find me something)
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:59 am to
quote:

The State Dept. lied about the nature of the assault and the assailents with the clear intent of influencing the election. The setting up and knocking down of strawmen doesn't exonerate HRC.


Just give up. The bar continues to be moved by a the conspiracy theorist.

The Dems have won...
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:57 am to
Extra security was requested, but denied.

The ambassador and 3 others were killed in an attack. The reason he was at Benghazi in the first place was never fully explained (and sketchy). In any event, the attack was by a terrorist group, NOT a mob protesting a youtube video (that did happen in Cairo, but not in Benghazi). The administration knew this had nothing to do with the video DURING the attack itself. Protestors do not have crew served weapons such as mortars and machine guns.

The administration, despite knowing it was an attack, chose to lie to the public - NOT to protect sensitive information, but to protect the President's narrative during a re-election campaign.

The administration has NEVER shown any sort of contrition or even acceptance over the above facts, particulalry, and will even reach back to almost double down on the video claim as somehow plausible, even though it never was.

Facts do not equal a hoax.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:59 am to
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The Dems have won...

If this debacle is what you consider a win, then I would hate to see a loss.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:04 am to
It's odd watching you side with the GOP.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:46 am to
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TOKEN GOP Led Report Debunks Right-Wing Media's Benghazi Hoax The right wing deserves to be exposed on this fake scandal.



Calling this a scandal is an insult to scandals. This is a tragic event that has been turned into a bad vaudeville act by the GOP for political gain. What is truly amazing is no one on the right can articulate exactly what the scandal is...all they know is that Fox News has told them it is a scandal and so a scandal it must be. Of course Fox can't settle on exactly what was scandalous about the attack but that doesn't make any difference. When you have an opportunity to create a scandal out of thin air why let the lack of scandal hold you back?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:57 am to
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What is truly amazing is no one on the right can articulate exactly what the scandal is


They lied in an attempt to confuse events in Cairo with the events in Benghazi, to avoid the appearance Stephens had been killed in a terrorist attack, but rather "workplace violence" (holding onto that theme to the bitter end). They continued to lie, obfuscate, mislead, etc., to protect the narrative of the election for weeks. They even had the maker of the youtube video arrested (albeit on other charges) to further this narrative. Then they fought disclosure of various details surrounding the various responses from State and DoD during and immediately after the attack.

That's the scandal.

The concern has been that a robust rescue attempt was aborted due to political considerations, but that would have been a separate scandal altogether. As the evidence developed, there does not appear support for such a conclusion, although that's sketchy, as are the reasons forwarded for Stephens to have been in Benghazi in the first place.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 7:14 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 7:00 am to
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When you have an opportunity to create a scandal out of thin air why let the lack of scandal hold you back?


Ferguson says hello. To be honest, incompetency by the most powerful government in the world, which all can agree on happened here, is much more troubling to me than a coverup. As I've said before, this is a Jefferson Jr. High administration trying to run an LSU program.
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