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QB development and 4 years?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:50 pm
Anyone have a clue? (other then coaching)
Why is it that most of our QBs are only productive after being hear a while?
We seem to be the exception not the rule in general for college football.
Hell Auburn took a DB and made him QB and went to the NCG.
I am not saying they need to be all conference, but able to perform on a college level, as a Frosh, and Soph.
Please don't say its the OC because we have had a few with the same problem.
Why is it that most of our QBs are only productive after being hear a while?
We seem to be the exception not the rule in general for college football.
Hell Auburn took a DB and made him QB and went to the NCG.
I am not saying they need to be all conference, but able to perform on a college level, as a Frosh, and Soph.
Please don't say its the OC because we have had a few with the same problem.
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Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:57 pm to cj2002
quote:
Anyone have a clue? (other then coaching)
Why is it that most of our QBs are only productive after being hear a while? [/quote]
How many QBs start off very good as Freshmen and Sophomores? not many, and the ones that do are usually elite caliber. We don't really have that
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Hell Auburn took a DB and made him QB and went to the NCG.
well he was barely asked to pay QB. He is more more of a runner than a QB, and has about as much chance of playing a QB at th next level as i do.
Also he played CB for less than one year. he was a QB in JUCO, and played at Auburn as a junior.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:00 pm to cj2002
Miles recruits from a narrow pool. Sure, he recruits some from other pools, but they have no shot at winning the job. The QB who Miles selects is the one willing to "protect the ball at all costs", and that guy is usually the one with the poorest field vision and ok running skills. The play selection and philosophy constrain the QB's development, and the first time the young man messes up with turnovers, Miles has "the talk of protecting the ball", lessening the QB's confidence further. Next thing you know, the QB is ruined and brain is underecoverable, until we play a poor defense, and then Miles justifies more of the same nonsense even more. It is highly predictable and complete bs of a method, and after so many times seeing this play out, you have to be a complete fool to see anything else.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:20 pm to Football_Freak
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The play selection and philosophy constrain the QB's development, and the first time the young man messes up with turnovers, Miles has "the talk of protecting the ball", lessening the QB's confidence further.
the last time we let the a subpar QB let it rip we lost 5 games.
how is that any better than what we are doing now?
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Next thing you know, the QB is ruined and brain is underecoverable
JL's mind was fricked up because he was allowed to go out and throw a million picks, and any "take care of the ball" speech was warranted.
And to say JJ's mind was ruined by less gives JJ's mind way too much credit coming in.
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It is highly predictable and complete bs of a method, and after so many times seeing this play out, you have to be a complete fool to see anything else.
how many times have you seen this play out?
we have had 6 starters under Les
3 were good (Russell, Flynn, Mettenburger)
2 sucked (JJ, JL) but this scenario didn't happen to them at all
1 is only a sophomore, so to say you've seen it play out is pretty dumb.
Also i don't know how you say this is what is happening to Jennings.
people say its that we never throw, but he does nothing with the chances we do give him, and we give him chances.
7/19 Iowa
9/21 vs Wisconsin
13/26 vs Miss St.
8/26 vs Bama
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:36 pm to Football_Freak
That is it
Nailed it on the head
Nailed it on the head
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:20 pm to Football_Freak
Freak,
That is the best reasoning I have heard yet, and everything you said is true based on past history.
Like you said, you have to think your eyes are lying to you to believe other wise.
That is the best reasoning I have heard yet, and everything you said is true based on past history.
Like you said, you have to think your eyes are lying to you to believe other wise.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:29 pm to SammyTiger
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7/19 Iowa 9/21 vs Wisconsin 13/26 vs Miss St. 8/26 vs Bama
Its not only the number of throws.
Its play design.
like running more then a 1 man route.
Its using more then one receiver.
like throwing to TE and RB.
Its when you throw it.
When most of your passes are 3rd and long, your odds suck, because the Defense knows you are throwing and they use more DB's.
Therefore, in our case you have 2 WR's against 5 DB's, terrible odds.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:54 pm to cj2002
I'll just go ahead and type what you want to read. It's Les Miles fault.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 9:27 pm to cj2002
Who was the last 4 year QB that miles coached that actually significantly got better? From freshman year to senior year?
I can't think of one.
I can't think of one.
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