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re: Best analysis of LSU's quarterback situation that I've read.

Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:21 am to
I've said that Chavis did an amazing job with the defense.

You're Still under the impression that Miles IS LSU. A wrong impression at that.
Posted by Reames239
Hammond
Member since Sep 2014
676 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:30 am to
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I'm honestly shocked at the amount of people in lsu's fan base with such low football iq



You stole this line from Choctaw.


The only one with any control , Les Miles, has both low football iq and general iq because he keeps running into the B gap against 9 man boxes.

Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29953 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:33 am to
Richt might be the Les miles of the east but he has no trouble recruiting QBs
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:46 am to
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McKay's article is much better IMO. LINK


Damn, it's like he read my mind. Dead on.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:48 am to
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Any criticism at all of Les Miles is shitting on LSU. Les Miles IS the school now.


Absolutely. They'll shite on players, shite on the fans, but defend Les as if he is the program.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:51 am to
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I remember in 2012 thinking Mett was over rated...



Nah, I knew he would blow up in 2013. Mett is the type of QB Cam can really work with.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:52 am to
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I've said that Chavis did an amazing job with the defense.


The defensive turnaround this year has been awesome.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:55 am to
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They'll shite on players


Link to anyone that doesn't want to fire the staff (which is apparently what a "pumper" is, trashing the players?

I think you are confused. Many of the same people that constantly shite on the coaches with every post are also trashing the players.

Where some of you get this stuff from remains a mystery.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:55 am to
Beefence - its curious you avoided the question of when your shift ends and who picks up after you.

It must be tiring to come on here day after day to trot out the same old "if your crtiticize Les, you are criticizing LSU" argument day after day. Les is probably the highest paid state employee in Louisana and the cost to results analysis is not working out in his favor right now. No one would choose to spend their free time arguing so vehemently for Les, unless they were incentivized
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Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:56 am to
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The defensive turnaround this year has been awesome.


Yep

I was critical of the chief earlier this year. He really turned things around
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:58 am to
I think every SEC school but Vanderbilt and Florida would have a better passing game than LSU with their second string QBs. It's baffling, and inexcusable.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:59 am to
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No one would choose to spend their free time arguing so vehemently


Wouldn't the same apply to those that come on here and continuously trash the team/coaches on a daily basis?

Again, you can be critical of the coaches (rightfully so this season) without wanting to fire the staff. Why the morons on here can't seperate the two is ridiculous.

Except Roger, he's seemed more level headed and rational than most.
Posted by tigers102886
Member since May 2008
1227 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:00 am to
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Les knew the chances of Zach Lee going to play MLB were strong, and Les had zero backup plan in case that happened.


Wasn't Lee already on campus and practicing with the team?

I can't really blame this one on Les. No way he could have predicted the Dodgers dishing out a franchise record contract for a draft pick and paying him 5 times more than his slotted spot in the draft.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:00 am to
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Link to anyone that doesn't want to fire the staff (which is apparently what a "pumper" is, trashing the players?


Dude, there are thousands of them. From Jarrett Lee, Russell Shepard, now Brandon Harris and Anthony Jennings. It's rampant. It proves you aren't reading for football related content, only reading to bash someone to mentions Miles.

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:01 am to
So you are saying that the bash at all cost guys on here don't bash the players. Just guys who don't bash coaches? Because that is a totally wrong assessment.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:05 am to
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I think it's nepotism tbh.

After going .500 partway through the season, the ravens fired him, offensive production went through the roof, they didn't lose another game and won the super bowl.



and Baltimore had the 29th offense last year and had to can the replacement.

While we had a solid offense.

Its a recruiting issue, but really who have we had a chance at that we have missed on? Dak? Sure but he is made for that specific offense. And who else?

Louisiana has been poor in QBs for a while.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:11 am to
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So you are saying that the bash at all cost guys on here don't bash the players. Just guys who don't bash coaches? Because that is a totally wrong assessment.


No. Pumpers bash players when it's convenient to defend Miles, as the use of J. Lee, R. Shepard, and now B. Jennings.

Miles haters do this as well, both are two sides of the same coin.

The problem with "pumpers" is you people aren't rational. You put the coach over the program, and are focused on the fans and not the team. You people are obsessed with defending the coach.

The whole college football world is baffled by LSU's lack of QB development overall, since Miles has been here, it's not just LSU fans. I like Miles, I hope he's here for another 10 years and is successful, but he's reached a critical point because of his inability to correct a problem that a program such as LSU should rarely have, and it's become the norm.

In case you're wondering why people seem fixated on this, it's because it is THE talk of the college football world when it comes to LSU. It's the Miles bandwagon pumpers who seem to overlook how serious this problem has become.

Les seems to be a good representative for LSU, he has highly rated recruiting classes (though I wonder if they fit the need in many cases) and always beats his rent a wins. He's not on the hot seat but if he doesn't find some solution to the QB issue next year, he will be.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:12 am to
LSU is not the only major football program that has had problems recruiting QBs. What has Texas done since recruiting Colt McCoy, who was in the same class as Perrilloux? How about Michigan? Has Florida recruited well other than Tebow? Do I have to mention Miami since Ken Dorsey? Recruiting QBs is not as easy as many fans make it out to be.

It is amazing that LSU has been as successful as it has despite its problems at QB. Texas, Florida, Miami and Michigan have not come close to LSU's success without exceptional play at QB.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259905 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:16 am to
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How about Michigan?


Robinson?

quote:

Has Florida recruited well other than Tebow?


They've had quite a few defections as well. I think the desire to stick with Driskel really hurt Muschamp.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 11:18 am to
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Its a recruiting issue, but really who have we had a chance at that we have missed on? Dak? Sure but he is made for that specific offense. And who else?


It is a recruiting issue, but not because of lack of available talent. The problem is Miles' strange fixation with recruiting dual threat QBs to run a pro-style offense.
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