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Yet another tipping thread
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:17 pm
We just got back from dinner and the bill was $265 (5 of us) and I left a $50 tip. My wife then questioned me why I didn't leave 20% to which I said I did. $265 was total including tax which means it was $243 +/- pre tax (9%) so my tip was actually a hair over 20% pre tax. I'm sure others would agree with my wife that 20% would have been $53 but I disagree. Why should I tip the server on tax charged by the locals/state?
To take this a step further, why do we tip on a percentage to begin with? As a hypothetical lets say just my wife and I went to the same restaurant and ordered the $10 appetizer, $18 chicken, $20 pork chop, two glasses of wine ($15 each) and two scotches ($15 each). We are looking at $108. $21.60 would be 20%. Let's now assume we changed our entrée to the $35 fillet and $50 porterhouse with everything else the same. Now we are looking at $155 with a 20% tip of $31. In this instance, what more/extra has the server done for the second meal that he didn't do for the first to justify the extra $10 in tip?
To take this a step further, why do we tip on a percentage to begin with? As a hypothetical lets say just my wife and I went to the same restaurant and ordered the $10 appetizer, $18 chicken, $20 pork chop, two glasses of wine ($15 each) and two scotches ($15 each). We are looking at $108. $21.60 would be 20%. Let's now assume we changed our entrée to the $35 fillet and $50 porterhouse with everything else the same. Now we are looking at $155 with a 20% tip of $31. In this instance, what more/extra has the server done for the second meal that he didn't do for the first to justify the extra $10 in tip?
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:18 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
If service is good-25%
If service is mediocre-20%
If service is bad-Be a better waiter
Sonic-Never tip
Hotel cleaning ladies-no (Unless they do something special like make a dog out of the towelettes or something)
If service is mediocre-20%
If service is bad-Be a better waiter
Sonic-Never tip
Hotel cleaning ladies-no (Unless they do something special like make a dog out of the towelettes or something)
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:18 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
You did fine man
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:18 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
did you get your shoes shined?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:18 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Humble brag and you're cheap for not tipping 20%
If you are paying for a 265 dinner you can afford 20%
If you are paying for a 265 dinner you can afford 20%
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:18 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Just don't be a dick and tip 20% of what you order, which it seems you did.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:19 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Just double the tax
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:20 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If service is good-25%
If service is mediocre-20%
If service is bad-Be a better waiter
This. I almost NEVER tip less than 20%, usually I tip 30%ish and will never tip less than $5 no matter what my bill is (say its $10 I will tip 5)
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:20 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
There are a lot of people who are not comfortable with making this kind of decision. A rule of thumb was created.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:20 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
First, 20% is high and very unnecessary.
Second, that amount averages out overtime.
Second, that amount averages out overtime.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:21 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
So....I bought a new truck yesterday.....after the deal was done the GM who I was dealing with joked about a gratuity.....haha.......today, I drop off my title to my trade in...another joke about a tip???? are care dealers expecting a tip now? do I tip on the price of the vehicle? haha.....suck my tip!
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:21 pm to The Boat
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Just double the tax
OR and MT is 0%.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:28 pm to liz18lsu
Do y'all tip the hibachi guy? Or just the waiter?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:29 pm to Bmath
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First, 20% is high and very unnecessary.
It's not, though. I worked in the service industry as a server then a bartender. It is a hard, strenuous job that involves taking shite from people all day (more so servers than bartenders here.) If they do a good job and facilitate your meal so you can enjoy it with your friends and family, 20% is very appropriate. Like I said, I will always tip more, but anything after 18% is really just a personal preference.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:30 pm to belowmebama
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Do y'all tip the hibachi guy? Or just the waiter?
I will usually throw the hibachi guy a 5 spot
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:31 pm to belowmebama
Former waitress, always tip double the gross bill. Just what I do no what's expected.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:35 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Congrats on your over priced meal
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:39 pm to td01241
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I worked in the service industry as a server then a bartender.
So you admit to being biased.
quote:
It is a hard, strenuous job that involves taking shite from people all day
This describes many jobs that don't offer tips, and also many that do not pay well either.
quote:
20% is very appropriate.
A quick google search will show that the appropriate average tip is still between 15-20%. Some articles may claim you should tip more, you can find plenty that say less is perfectly appropriate. It ultimately depends on your confirmation bias.
While 15% is on the low end you should consider a few things: Many people tip on the tax, and that increases the actual tip amount. Think of your tips like dollar cost averaging where some people may only tip 15% but others may be more generous. Therefore your average tip will sit somewhere in the middle.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:39 pm to tween the hedges
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Humble brag and you're cheap for not tipping 20%
Not a brag at all. If you take five out to a nice steak place $265 is on the low side.
As to being cheap for not tipping 20% I think that I did tip 20%. You missed the entire point of my post. If you think I didn't leave 20% please explain to me why you think that I should tip on the tax. The server had nothing to do with the tax.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:42 pm to Bmath
I agree and when I worked in the industry I was never upset with 15% it is what some people deem a good tip, and that was fine with me. But like you said for every jerk off that doesnt tip or tips 10% there is someone who tips 30% . It all averages out to around 20% over time.
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