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re: Paradise Jam Game Thread: LSU 61 ODU 70; FINAL
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:00 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:00 pm to BayouBengals03
If anyone thinks this team is going to win 25 games, you're nuts. We have no depth. Our only big guy is Mickey and we lose if he sucks. As we did tonight.
We just aren't ready for a run. This season begins our quest for a title. We win 15-18 games and probably won't be playing too deep into March.
We just aren't ready for a run. This season begins our quest for a title. We win 15-18 games and probably won't be playing too deep into March.
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:00 pm to pellietigersaint
I believe we let JJ stay this year unless it gets really ugly but next year, unless we make the tourney, hes on the hot seat cause with our players we can beat anyone.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:01 pm to tadelatt
well this is embarrassing. LSU athletics is not at its best right now
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:01 pm to tadelatt
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This season begins our quest for a title
How?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
If we cant beat Illinois State/Weber State...we're in for a long season.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:03 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Get out of here with that bullshite. People can't rant and rave about jones recruiting ability then blame the failure of the players he recruited on the previous coach anymore when there isn't a single player from the previous coach on the roster.
Maybe it takes time for a basketball ball team to come together? Just look at the Cleveland Cavaliers right now. They've got the best player in the league, the second best PF, the best young PG, and a bench full of experienced role players and are still struggling to stay .500. Once again, team has to grow more before we crucify Jones. If we are having the same issues 20 games in, then the criticism is deserved.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:04 pm to pellietigersaint
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Jones didnt commit the foul you dumb cocksucker
Players should know exactly what to do in those situations.
Time and score, and end of game situations, should be practiced over and over and over again.
That is bad coaching and/or bad discipline.
Either way, a reflection of our overall identity, which comes from the coach.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:04 pm to Adam4LSU
quote:Exactly!! I think they're deferring to martin and Mickey we need define their roles and we need for our bigs to rotate on defense !! And let Mussellman have some input!!
nailed it. Neither of those guys look comfortable right now. I don't know what the deal is. Gray hurt us a lot tonight. Stupid turnovers, late passes, and passed on some easy layups
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:04 pm to MottLaneKid
Where is all the talent. I don't see it. Mickey and Martin are good, but not great. And everybody else is just GUYS.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:08 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
How many days till baseball? Football sucks and it looks like basketball is going to be disappointing again.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:09 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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Where is all the talent. I don't see it. Mickey and Martin are good, but not great. And everybody else is just GUYS.
Gray and Hornsby are good scorers, they are better than Stringer/Hickey.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:09 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:agreed. There is no reason for this to be a shitty season with our talent. If JJ can't win with this roster then we seriously have to question him in the long run. The good news is it is extremely early and the kinks can be worked out. The bad news is the Sec is complete and utter garbage so any loss in conference outside of uf, uk is seen as terrible. So the ooc has a razor thin margin and we already blew a game.
If we cant beat Illinois State/Weber State...we're in for a long season.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:10 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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Where is all the talent. I don't see it. Mickey and Martin are good, but not grea
Was this your first LSU basketball game?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:11 pm to BobBarker
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Maybe it takes time for a basketball ball team to come together? Just look at the Cleveland Cavaliers right now. They've got the best player in the league, the second best PF, the best young PG, and a bench full of experienced role players and are still struggling to stay .500. Once again, team has to grow more before we crucify Jones. If we are having the same issues 20 games in, then the criticism is deserved.
If he cant win this year what makes you think next will be any different if we lose Martin and Mickey? Sure we have Simmons but have no one else even committed right now. Even if we got Blakeney then we're just "young" again next year with 2 freshmen starting.
If you want to recruit NBA players you cant expect them to stay 3 or 4 years, they are going to leave after 1 or 2 generally. If he cant put together a winning team with this formula then his formula needs to change.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:12 pm to SL Tiger
Johnny Jones can recriut good players but has done absolutely nothing with them when they're here.
This team struggles in the fundamental aspects of the game that lead to winning programs. Horrible shot selection/situational awareness, relatively little defensive execution, poor FTs. This isn't anything new under Jones if you'd paid attention over the last three years. Unless that improves, they are going to struggle to win away from home.
Last year's team was far too talented to finish .500 in a weak SEC. So far this year it looks like Jones is taking a equally as talented (perhaps more) team in that same direction.
This team struggles in the fundamental aspects of the game that lead to winning programs. Horrible shot selection/situational awareness, relatively little defensive execution, poor FTs. This isn't anything new under Jones if you'd paid attention over the last three years. Unless that improves, they are going to struggle to win away from home.
Last year's team was far too talented to finish .500 in a weak SEC. So far this year it looks like Jones is taking a equally as talented (perhaps more) team in that same direction.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:12 pm to heartbreakTiger
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So the ooc has a razor thin margin and we already blew a game.
Wins over Umass and @ WVU can go a long way to erasing this but this was an early kick in the gut.
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:12 pm to BobBarker
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Maybe it takes time for a basketball ball team to come together? Just look at the Cleveland Cavaliers right now. They've got the best player in the league, the second best PF, the best young PG, and a bench full of experienced role players and are still struggling to stay .500. Once again, team has to grow more before we crucify Jones. If we are having the same issues 20 games in, then the criticism is deserved.
Oh I see. Because the talent gap between any 2 teams in the nba is very comparable to the talent gap between Lsu and old dominion. It makes perfect sense now.
How long have all those new faces at duke and Kentucky taken to come together? Surely they must be struggling because none of those guys have really played together before, right?
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:13 pm to LSUDAN1
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How many days till baseball?
Who cares? Gtfo of here with that baseball shite
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:15 pm to pellietigersaint
Its just hard to believe some of you keep saying this team is talented... After our best two we're average and after our best 4 we're horrible
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:17 pm to Off McVoy
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Its just hard to believe some of you keep saying this team is talented... After our best two we're average and after our best 4 we're horrible
Because we are talented, we are just poorly coached.
We have 2 NBA forwards on this team, a guy who averaged 15 ppg already on the D1 level and a guy who AVERAGED 35ppg in JUCO last season.
Let that sink in.
The talent is here, the coaching still sucks.
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