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any opinions on fender's champion 100 amp?

Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:23 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:23 pm
I'm looking at budget amps to replace and upgrade my little fender frontman. Here's a link to the amp in question. LINK

Any recommendations for different amps in a similar price range (under $450)?
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:49 pm to
Highly doubt you need that much power. Go for less power but more quality.

And consider tube.
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:23 pm to
Either a fender classic 30 or s blues jr. I play hard rock and I still love these amps! You can pedal the crap out them to get any sound you wish and stifle have the tube warmth.
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:23 pm to
Consider a Fender Princeton. I prefer a Super Reverb myself, but thos cost more.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6706 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:53 pm to
Fender Super Champ

It has 2 channels. Channel 1 is all tube and channel 2 has some modeling effects that mimic great Fender amps of the past (+ reverb, delay, trem, vibe, and chorus). I love mine. It will get loud, but not crazy-loud.
Posted by MondayMorningMarch
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:41 pm to
Mine goes to 12. That is 1 louder than 11!
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:13 pm to
I have a Vox 4 watt tube amp (I think it's the AC41C) that I like. It's simple, around 300 bucks, tube amp, sounds good to me.
Posted by PPL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:38 am to
What are you using it for? Practice? Jamming to the radio? Gigs?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:59 am to
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What are you using it for? Practice? Jamming to the radio? Gigs?


Mostly practice now with my garage band, but I will need it soon for gigs.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 8:06 am
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:39 am to
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Highly doubt you need that much power. Go for less power but more quality.

And consider tube.

All of this. There's no way you need 100 watts. A lower powered tube amp would be a better way to go in my opinion.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:54 am to
It's solid state, he's going to need much more than 100 watts.

You're thinking of a tube amp.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Highly doubt you need that much power. Go for less power but more quality


It's only 100 watts solid state, which isn't very loud at all.

quote:

And consider tube.


I literally don't know a single guitar player in a band that plays a solid state amp.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:06 am to
Need to know alot more info. I will always recommend a tube amp. Is this for bedroom jamming/recording with the possibility to be on stage or bedroom only? Is is for the stage only? Predominantly a blues amp where you need big glassy cleans? Need a two channel OD/Clean amp?

Orange Tiny Terror 12" combo- 15 watts
Classic Rock tones into high gain territory with a boost - pretty versatile and ALOTTTT of quality tone for the money. Can get decent clean tones with low gain/high volume rolled back guitar knob. There's a reason these little beasts have the reputation they do. Giggable at 15 watts if mic'ed up properly but will struggle in a rock setting. Perfect for slow blues trio in a small bar.
Tiny Terror Combo on Ebay - $500

Marshall DSL5C- 10" combo - 5 watts
Fantastic Overdriven rock sounds. Fantastic at home recording amp and has a 1 watt power switch in the back for bedroom practicing. I own one of these and I use it more than my Boogie Mini Rec. Not that it sounds better (the Boogie smokes it) but it's a very good amp all things considered.

Fender Blues Junior III- 12" 15 watt
SRV tones in an affordable package. Ive owned two of these and they are great at what they do. Glassy cleans with nice deep reverb. It has two volume knobs for preamp/poweramp so it can get some really tasty classic rock overdriven tones and smokes with a boost pedal in the front end. Great amp for the money.

Fender Pro Junior - 10" 15 watt
Same as above except only has two knobs and no reverb. Tone knob and volume. It breaks up alot faster and gets into classic rock crunch at about 6 on volume. Great basic amp that can cover alot of tones with the right pedals.

Randall DC5C Diavlo- 10" 5 watt
Same setup as Marshall DSL5C but with a more metal flavor. Nails high gain in metal tones.

If you want higher wattage gigging amps then thats an entirely different market.

Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13590 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Mostly practice now with my garage band, but I will need it soon for gigs.


Used Marshall DSL40C will give you all the amp you need with quality tone for a price close to your budget. Shop ebay.

Ebay - $529

If you are playing in a rock, punk, blues, metal band, this will deliver the goods and is very good bang for the buck. It's the bigger brother to the DSL5c's and 15c's. 40 watts is ALOT of volume and you will never get past 3 on the master volume, but the power will be there if you need and have 40 watts of tube gives you lots of headroom to get those big and full clean tones.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14664 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:35 am to
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It's solid state, he's going to need much more than 100 watts.

You're thinking of a tube amp.

Maybe so. I'd have thought that a hundred watts is a hundred watts but I don't have much experience with solid state amps. I do have a 30 watt practice amp that can be pretty frickin loud though.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67126 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Need to know alot more info. I will always recommend a tube amp. Is this for bedroom jamming/recording with the possibility to be on stage or bedroom only? Is is for the stage only? Predominantly a blues amp where you need big glassy cleans? Need a two channel OD/Clean amp?


Definitely need the possibility to be on stage. We're hoping to play our first gig before the end of the year.

I like to have the option of a good hard rock "crunch" (think Zeppelin, The Who, ect) but I also want the flexibility to be able to play smooth and clean. An added included pedal channel-shifter would be a nice plus.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:23 pm to
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I'd have thought that a hundred watts is a hundred watts


A watt is a watt. The main differences between a tube and solid state amp are in what happens when they go into clipping.

When a tube amp "breaks up" it's pleasant to the ears. When a SS amp clips, it sounds like absolute shite.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:29 pm to
for a stage amp in an average rock band you're going to want to go with 30-50 tube watts. 100 tube watt amps aren't necessary unless you're playing in extremely loud metal bands.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Fender Super Champ

It has 2 channels. Channel 1 is all tube and channel 2 has some modeling effects that mimic great Fender amps of the past (+ reverb, delay, trem, vibe, and chorus). I love mine. It will get loud, but not crazy-loud.



Concur
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:52 pm to
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any opinions on fender's champion 100 amp?


finally listened to the youtube. that amp sounds really bad IMO
go to craigslist and find a used tube amp on there
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