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re: PS4 on Amazon for $89.00. Is this Legit?

Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:56 pm to
Posted by LSU999
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:56 pm to
It is intriguing, but this is an example of how people ruin things.

Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:01 pm to
To press charges against a customer who wanted a price match? Yes it would. Now if they are behind the entire scam then that's different. Retail stores rarely press charges for a reason.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:09 pm to
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Now if they are behind the entire scam then that's different.
No one is innocently asking for this price match. Cooperating with law enforcement to prosecute thieves and shoplifters is not a pr problem at all.

Please explain why this would cause a pr nightmare for Walmart?
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:12 pm to
Same reason they never prosecute people that actually try to steal, no need for the publicity over negative things. I don't doubt that 99% of people know it's not a correct price but just don't honor it. If your employee honors it then address that internally.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:15 pm to
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Same reason they never prosecute people that actually try to steal, no need for the publicity over negative things.
No pr nightmare in that.

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If your employee honors it then address that internally.
I'm sure they will, but they may also ask police to prosecute one or two of these to deter others from trying. They don't take a pr hit. LE is the one prosecuting anyway.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:22 pm to
My point is they want to avoid negative attention. I saw people get away with stealing thousands for this reason. I don't think a $400 ps4 will be treated more harsh.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:26 pm to
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I don't think a $400 ps4 will be treated more harsh.
It isn't about a single ps4, it is about the viability of the entire price matching strategy.

They may determine the scope isn't broad enough to seek prosecution, but it won't be based on it bringing negative pr. You still havent explained how le prosecuting these thieves brings bad pr.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:29 pm to
I just told you why Walmart wouldn't.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:38 pm to
They may prosecute the low-hanging fruit, but the problem is whether the time is worth it. They cannot prove that random Joe Customer had any mal intent. Common sense dictates that of course Joe Consumer knew better, but Wal-Mart has a price-match policy. Joe consumer asked Wal-Mart to honor it. They did. If they cherry pick a few, the bad PR comes from people asking why Wal-Mart singled people out and whether they can prove these particular customers weren't just naively taking advantage of a "pre black friday deal" or something. Plausible deniability.

The person most likely to actually get in real trouble would be the person who created the PS4 listing if it can be proven that he created it and used it to get the PS4 at a discount, AND he did not sell a PS4 for that price nor did he have a PS4 to sell prior to taking advantage of his own listing. That would be fraud.


As a result, Wal-Mart will need to revise their policy. But the problem is, they can't just say "only sold-by-amazon products are eligible," because the bigger problem is being able to verify the price. If all you have to do is print out the Amazon page, that opens up a can of worms. I can change the price of something in seconds simply by editing the source code of any Amazon page:



This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:40 pm to
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If they cherry pick a few, the bad PR comes from people asking why Wal-Mart singled people out and whether they can prove these particular customers weren't just naively taking advantage of a "pre black friday deal" or something.
Walmart isn't responsible for proving any of this.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:42 pm to
Whoever prosecutes them is responsible for proving the customer knowingly committed fraud.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:44 pm to
Yes. LE, not Walmart. While Walmart does just about everything, they aren't authorized to prosecute crimes. That is the State.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:49 pm to
Which won't act unless Walmart reports theft and presses charges.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:54 pm to
And then LE can investigate to see if they have probable cause. It is still on LE to make the decisions and prove the crime. A quick review of Internet browsing would probably be enough to prove intent for most of these.
Posted by zou_keeper
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:47 pm to
It is listed as $89 again
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:49 am to
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:45 pm to
Love how the article called the scammers evil
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I'm all out of squirrel but I have at least 7 rabbit testicles. Any idea what the conversion rate is?
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:57 pm to
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:27 pm to
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They might be...

this is why we can't have nice things. why don't these frickers keep that shite quiet, walmart will be preventing it from happening again in no time

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