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Buffalo to seize guns from cold, dead hands.......literally
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:43 am
LINK
but I thought confiscation was never their intention
gotta love Libs
quote:
A plan by police in Buffalo, N.Y., to begin confiscating the firearms of legal gun owners within days of their deaths is drawing fire from Second Amendment advocates.
but I thought confiscation was never their intention
quote:registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation
Buffalo Police Commissioner Daniel Derrenda said at a press conference last week that the department will be sending people to collect guns that belong to pistol permit holders who had died so "they don't end up in the wrong hands." The department will cross reference pistol permit holders with death records and the guns will be collected when possible, he said
quote:criminalizing innocent civilians just for waking up in the morning
The state law says that if the permit holder dies, the estate has 15 days to dispose of the guns or turn them in to authorities, who can hold the weapons up to two years. LoHud.com reported that violation of the law by survivors is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a fine.
quote:selective enforcement...here we go
The state law has been in the books for years but not enforced, King said. The Erie County Sheriff's Office told FoxNews.com that it learned about the Buffalo police decision after the announcement, but has no plans to invoke it on a regular basis as the city of Buffalo does.
gotta love Libs
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Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:44 am to lsuroadie
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:07 am to lsuroadie
So they don't give the option for a heir to the weapons if said heir can get a permit?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:11 am to deltaland
I'm thinking every parent should have a bill of sale to their heirs signed for all of their weapons that is notarized and becomes effective on the day of their death.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:15 am to deltaland
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So they don't give the option for a heir to the weapons if said heir can get a permit?
From the article:
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"They're quick to say they're going to take the guns," said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. "But they don't tell you the law doesn't apply to long guns, or that these families can sell [their loved one's] pistol or apply to keep it."
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:18 am to Meauxjeaux
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I'm thinking every parent should have a bill of sale to their heirs signed for all of their weapons that is notarized and becomes effective on the day of their death.
Seems like they're going off a permitting issue here, and I'm not sure if that would automatically get around that.
Screwiness.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:19 am to mmcgrath
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or apply to keep it."
DUCK! INCOMING!
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:21 am to lsuroadie
Gun trust would be handy here.
Dead person would not be the legal owner.
Dead person would not be the legal owner.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:22 am to lsuroadie
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registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation
Yes it does
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:23 am to TrueTiger
I vote that TrueTiger be allowed an exemption such that his sig pic can be much bigger. 
Oh ... and don't come for my guns ... they are willed to my sons. So frick off.
Oh ... and don't come for my guns ... they are willed to my sons. So frick off.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:29 am to lsuroadie
Are inherited firearms a rising cause for alarm?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:29 am to mmcgrath
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or apply to keep it
I know your mind doesn't function in this manner...
but why in the F@#$ing hell should I have to apply to a govt entity to keep something they have no right to in the first place.
esp a constitutional right? if my father dies, do I have to apply to keep my first amendment rights?
:nb4carshavetoberegistered:
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:35 am to mmcgrath
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or apply to keep it.
Fox News article. I don't believe it.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:38 am to mmcgrath
quote:
From the article:
quote:
"They're quick to say they're going to take the guns," said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. "But they don't tell you the law doesn't apply to long guns, or that these families can sell [their loved one's] pistol or apply to keep it."
You think a family should have to apply to keep their loved ones' possessions?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:39 am to lsuroadie
quote:If you take possession of them there is no problem.
I know your mind doesn't function in this manner...
but why in the F@#$ing hell should I have to apply to a govt entity to keep something they have no right to in the first place.
esp a constitutional right? if my father dies, do I have to apply to keep my first amendment rights?
:nb4carshavetoberegistered:
No one wants a bunch of guns sitting around in an attic or closet with no one taking responsibility for them.
quote:You have your 2nd amendment right to own a firearm. All the government wants you to do is "take ownership". Jeez.
if my father dies, do I have to apply to keep my first amendment rights?
Some people are such winy little babies about this stuff.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 11:04 am to mmcgrath
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No one wants a bunch of guns sitting around in an attic or closet with no one taking responsibility for them.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 11:04 am to mmcgrath
It's Buffalo Talk about cold dead hands
Brrr
Brrr
Posted on 11/14/14 at 11:51 am to lsuroadie
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if my father dies, do I have to apply to keep my first amendment rights?
While I agree with you, you have your amendments confused.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 11:56 am to SoulGlo
quote:If you don't transfer their money in a bank account the state will take that too, so yeah. If the grown up kids are all felons then you wouldn't want them to take possession would you?
You think a family should have to apply to keep their loved ones' possessions?
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:16 pm to MikeBRLA
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While I agree with you, you have your amendments confused.
re-read. it's a comparison
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