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What to do with Colston?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:33 pm
Do they Saints keep him next season? Reasons for and against. His dead money hit for 2015 is nearly a push.
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:44 pm to Dunk47
shite for hands is an even break, makes one or two awesome plays, then 2-3 mind blowing, drive killing, crunch time drops...maybe a fumble added in for some overtime fun
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:44 pm to Dunk47
He's projected to put up a career low 850 yards. He's no longer the #1 WR, but still would be a solid 4th option on a team that passes as much as we do. The question becomes, is Nick Toon ready to replace him.
Colston's cap hit is:
2015: 9.7mil (Dead: 5.4mil; Savings: 4.3mil)
2016: 10.5mil (Dead: 2.7mil; Savings: 7.8mil)
The catch is, a June 1 cut shifts it to 2.7mil dead, 7.0mil savings this year.
Issue is, you get less cap savings in 2016 in comparison to outright cutting him.
The part I think is key: 6.9mil base salary. You get him to reduce his salary to 3.0mil and your cap hit drops to 5.8mil (right where his worth is imo).
Colston's cap hit is:
2015: 9.7mil (Dead: 5.4mil; Savings: 4.3mil)
2016: 10.5mil (Dead: 2.7mil; Savings: 7.8mil)
The catch is, a June 1 cut shifts it to 2.7mil dead, 7.0mil savings this year.
Issue is, you get less cap savings in 2016 in comparison to outright cutting him.
The part I think is key: 6.9mil base salary. You get him to reduce his salary to 3.0mil and your cap hit drops to 5.8mil (right where his worth is imo).
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:48 pm to htran90
quote:Evidently, Toon isn't even ready to play on a part time basis.
The question becomes, is Nick Toon ready to replace him
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:49 pm to DelU249
We tried to renegotiate his contract but the pen kept falling right between his fingers.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:55 pm to Chad504boy
Lest we not forget how very good he's been. But he has let us down a good bit lately.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:56 pm to Dunk47
but..but...but....he's not regressing!!!
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:59 pm to htran90
quote:I must have missed those.
makes one or two awesome plays
quote:The answer is no.
The question becomes, is Nick Toon ready to replace him.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:00 pm to Lester Earl
Through all of this, Brees is still on pace to hit 5000 yards 
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:00 pm to Lester Earl
quote:firstly, does anyone find this funny or clever?
but..but...but....he's not regressing!!!
Secondly, who said Colston wasn't regressing?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:01 pm to Dunk47
If he wants league vet minimum he can stay, otherwise he gone. For the 5 million or so they save cutting him I'm sure they can find someone on the FA market who you can get better production from with that money. He's done. Way past his prime. Production was falling off last year and he just hit a wall this year. He's going to need to take a big cut to stay here.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:17 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
Secondly, who said Colston wasn't regressing?
there were threads all offseason about how average our WR corps was last year.
quote:
firstly, does anyone find this funny or clever?
butthurt.--->you
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:17 pm to Dunk47
If cut, would the Saints go WR in the first round again?
Not knocking Cooks because he is very talented, but I don't think he will be a wr 1 by next season. And with the 5 million yall would save (i think that is what someone said the # would be) could that afford a wr 1?
Not knocking Cooks because he is very talented, but I don't think he will be a wr 1 by next season. And with the 5 million yall would save (i think that is what someone said the # would be) could that afford a wr 1?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:19 pm to Indfanfromcol
quote:He's not supposed to be our #1. Jimmy Graham is the #1 receiver.
Not knocking Cooks because he is very talented, but I don't think he will be a wr 1 by next season.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:19 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I don't see how that helps your argument.
there were threads all offseason about how average our WR corps was last year.
quote:You got me.
butthurt.--->you
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:31 pm to Indfanfromcol
no. we desperately need a corner. and i think stills will become the #1
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:35 pm to htran90
quote:
The question becomes, is Nick Toon ready to replace him.
Toon isn't going to replace him. I have no faith in Nick Toon and have already given up on him.Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:35 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
I don't see how that helps your argument.
What argument?
I made that post because when certain people read it, they'll know what it means.
are you one of them?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:36 pm to Dunk47
Either he takes a pay cut to somewhere around the amount that his dead money would be or cut him. I love Colston. Without a doubt one of the all time greatest Saints but he isn't worth his salary anymore.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:00 pm to Indfanfromcol
quote:
If cut, would the Saints go WR in the first round again?
Not knocking Cooks because he is very talented, but I don't think he will be a wr 1 by next season. And with the 5 million yall would save (i think that is what someone said the # would be) could that afford a wr 1?
Not in the first round, but maybe in the second round. This team has more issues than WR right now.
ILB - Hawthorne is likely gone, he's just a waste of money and playing time.
CB - We need a solid #2, White and PRob are not it, but Patrick is a solid #3. Notice most teams start to pick on White > anyone else in this secondary.
G - Grubbs or Evans are likely gone - their play for their pay is HORRIBLE.
You see teams like Green Bay and Denver, they're loaded with weapons, but when a player with very good potential fell into their laps, they take them.
Cobb, even though they had Jennings and Jordy
Adams, even though they had Cobb and Jordy
Latimer, even though they had ...well you know everyone and their mom.
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