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Banks Fined Billions for Manipulating Currency Exchanges

Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:11 pm
LINK

The list of banks include:
CitiBank
HSBC
JP Morgan Chase
RBS
UBS
Bank of America

A total of over $4.3 Billion in fines.

Does anyone on this board really believe that less regulations are needed for banks and that they can successfully self-regulate?
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 12:12 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:25 pm to
The same banks that stole billions and billions of dollars in the financial crisis and then got bailed out by the taxpayers and then had to pay the Federal Government fines of several billion dollars while no one went to jail?

Apparently you can manipulate currency exchanges that the whole world depends on and just pay a fine (is this how the government comes behind to "wet its beak"?) but if you are caught carrying some drugs on you, you go to jail for years.

America.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:26 pm to
Yes.

When our gov't implements regulations, who are the regulators? The bankers who have banker friends.

4.3 billion hit will be passed along to the clients, so those banks won't get hurt at all.

Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:29 pm to
And the government picks up another $4.3 billion. It is the customer/tax payer who pays for it.

Until people start going to jail, this will just continue. It is a huge shell game and the American people are getting fleeced.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

hit will be passed along to the clients
Chase Bank's market cap decreased $3.1 billion just today after the fines were announced so you're wrong.

The banks' stockholders absorb the losses not the banks' customers.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:36 pm to
Passed along to clients?

More fines coming as well. The LIBOR manipulation several years back may break some records for fines before it is done.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Chase Bank's market cap decreased $3.1 billion just today after the fines were announced so you're wrong


In the short run.

But in the long run, will Chase not recoup these losses by adding fees or raising interest rates on loans?

Maybe cutting salaries or employment numbers?

Come on man.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:45 pm to
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will Chase not recoup these losses by adding fees or raising interest rates on loans?
If Chase had no competitors....sure. But it does so, no.

quote:

Maybe cutting salaries or employment numbers?

What about it? Do you think banks have people just sitting around that they wait to be fined by the government just so they can let those employees go?

quote:

Come on man.
No, you 'come on, man.'

Your statement that the fines will be passed on to customers is one of the Top 5 Dumbest Statements ever on the Poli Board.

FYI, SpideyTUba has the other 4.....
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:54 pm to
Did HSBC get fined for the money laundering they were doing for the cartels?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Did HSBC get fined for the money laundering they were doing for the cartels?

Yeah, 2 years ago.....$1.9 billion in fines.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67846 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:07 pm to
Great. Now they will pass the fines on to their customers.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14491 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

If Chase had no competitors....sure. But it does so, no


Yeah, true, but to be fair, that is a pretty big list of banks. How many serious competitors are not on that list? BKNY? Deutsche bank? Wells Fargo, maybe?

Not saying he was right, but there is an issue if everyone is violating a rule and everyone gets fined; it's more likely to get passed on.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Until people start going to jail, this will just continue.
I agree with this. Maybe that should be the focus of the next "Tea Party". The "We Will Jail Corrupt Bankers" Party.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I agree with this. Maybe that should be the focus of the next "Tea Party". The "We Will Jail Corrupt Bankers" Party.


That is part of what the Occupy movement was about, but then they couldn't decide what they were about and "hey, look over there!" and "who wants a latte?" and, "it's getting really cold out!" so they quit and went home.

If they would have agreed to a "jail the bankers" platform, I would have appreciated their camping out a bit more.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:21 pm to
F@ck you Citibank. Its personal with those jackholes.

And no. I think you would there is little love across America for banks and Wall St.

Except for those of both isles of course receiving the largess they provide to our most honest politicians in Washington.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:27 pm to
They need to arrest the officers of those companies and lock them up for a LONG time if they are guilty.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Until people start going to jail, this will just continue.


Same thing with the police
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

They need to arrest the officers of those companies and lock them up for a LONG time if they are guilty.


It'll never happen. Officers and traders do crooked things, take huge risks leverage wise, and get huge rewards if successful with minimum value given to shareholder. If not successful or fined by the government, the shareholder pays the fines.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Great. Now they will pass the fines on to their customers.


this guy gets it

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10821 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Does anyone on this board really believe that less regulations are needed for banks and that they can successfully self-regulate?
Like they arent now?
quote:

"The banks have been allowed to investigate themselves," one source familiar with the investigation told Reuters. "The investigated decide what they want to investigate, what they admit to, and how much they will pay."

Banks pay up and carry on after FX fines
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