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Is Harris better

Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:51 pm
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:51 pm
I've only seen Harris play during the Auburn game. In that game he could not break the huddle. When passing he could not hit the broad side of a barn from the inside. So why do I always hear and read he is a better passer? Where is the proof?

Look, I'm not saying Jennings is better, obviously he is not working. I just want to know why people assume Harris can take over and make the offense move.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38235 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:53 pm to
Harris isn't good enough to beat an SEC team yet. Neither is Jennings, but his mistakes are minimized compared to Harris'.

ETA: And it's pretty close tbh. Both still have screwups on handoffs. The only difference is that Jennings underthrows it and Harris overthrows.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:54 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Is Harris better


Not sure.... BUT Miles should have started him against UK while at home in a comfortable environment. His confidence was shattered at AU. I am not sure we beat AU this year with METT starting... That game had been circled on AU'S schedule since they came out... As good as Harris looked against MSU[against a three-man rush] And NMS. He was not ready to start at AU...


Having said that, I think he WILL be better and IMO should get playing time against both teams remaining........ But Miles WILL not do this....
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:56 pm to
Go watch the other games that Harris played in... And then you'll know. In his limited PT, he has shown more talent and ability than Jennings has his entire career.

He's just really green right now. But I would hope he gets PT down the stretch...

And I hope they don't call the game differently just because Harris is in and not Jennings, which is what they have done. Call the similar run heavy offense with some PA passing... Don't put Harris in the game and then just pass pass pass. Don't put that pressure on him. Ease him into the game out there.

And the fact that we finally found our rushing attack should help. Because we didn't have it early on in the season when Harris saw most of his snaps.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71675 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:56 pm to
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BUT Miles should have started him against UK while at home in a comfortable environment.

So you bench Jennings for winning at Florida?
Posted by GeneratedAttitude
Portland
Member since Aug 2014
64 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:57 pm to
No one really knows, most people are in love with his upside more than anything and he seems to have a better feel for the game but I don't think he would do any be in regards of passing this year but he definitely would be a better runner than Jennings as he's the better athlete.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

I just want to know why people assume Harris can take over and make the offense move.


A lot of people on this board still believe Russell Shepard was a viable option as a QB so you have that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66632 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:59 pm to
Here is an idea, don't start a thread about something you could have known by simply being a fan and watching LSU games.

If you only saw Harris during Auburn then you missed a large chunk of the season.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:04 pm to
BH started his first game on the road against a top 5 team in the SEC. He is a true freshmen and played horrible. He wasn't the only one that played bad at auburn though.

I just don't understand how the coaching staff thought he was a viable option in September and have essentially given up on letting him gain experience in games.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:05 pm to
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So you bench Jennings for winning at Florida


Not at all... Harris needs his confidence back... IF Jennings is a team player he would understand that Harris needed a boost....
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71675 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

IF Jennings is a team player he would understand that Harris needed a boost....

Yeah that's not how the world works.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:08 pm to
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He was not ready to start at AU...


IMHO Miles started him tp prove THAT MILES WAS RIGHT in starting AJ, irrelevant of the damage
to Harris or the loss to the team.

Miles has some good qualities but stubbornness and arrogance are not the good ones....and we all know he is capable of sacrificing an NC game to prove a point HIS WAY, so that would sacrifice a game...no big deal.

If Harris failed: Miles proved that he was right all along by choosing AJ

If Harris succeeded: Miles would have gotten the credit for making the change.


Harris should have
a) been brought in from the bench in the 2nd or 3rd drive
b)Miles NEVER should have announced it ahead of time, giving Auburn time to prepare for him......THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME THINK THAT he wanted to prove his point w AJ

There was no tactical reason for announcing that ahead of time.


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203059 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Yeah that's not how the world works.



Why not???? Why couldn't Miles have started Harris against UK??? He said himself the start against AU was the worst night in his football life.. Miles obviously didn't listen. ANY experience for Harris against UK could have done nothing but boost his confidence... If Miles thinks Jennings is the answer then he is a fool... Nothing against Jennings but maybe Harris IS better...
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71675 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:12 pm to
quote:


IMHO Miles started him tp prove THAT MILES WAS RIGHT in starting AJ, irrelevant of the damage
to Harris or the loss to the team.

Miles has some good qualities but stubbornness and arrogance are not the good ones....and we all know he is capable of sacrificing an NC game to prove a point HIS WAY, so that would sacrifice a game...no big deal.

If Harris failed: Miles proved that he was right all along by choosing AJ

If Harris succeeded: Miles would have gotten the credit for making the change.

Or you're just going to blame Miles no matter the outcome.
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b)Miles NEVER should have announced it ahead of time, giving Auburn time to prepare for him......THIS IS WHAT MAKES ME THINK THAT he wanted to prove his point w AJ

People on here were losing their minds because he didn't name Harris starter to the sideline reporter immediately after the NMSU game.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71675 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

ANY experience for Harris against UK could have done nothing but boost his confidence.

There's a difference between giving Harris experience in that game and benching Jennings after a big road win.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

Is Harris better


Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Is Harris better

Let's put it this way.... Over the course of ten games Jennings has proven himself to be one of the worst starting quarterbacks in major college football.

The odds are STRONGLY in favor of Harris being better. Few qb's have been worse than Jennings.

Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:18 pm to




The first gif is the only thing I need to see to recognize that Harris has way more talent and ability than Jennings does. Jennings cant make that throw. Period.

2nd gif is just for fun because I found it when looking for gif #1.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3789 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:21 pm to
Does anybody remember the NMST game? Harris was unbelievably good. Yes, it was NMST, but Harris looked better in that game than Jennings has looked in ANY game. Harris was overwhelmed at Auburn, but the potential he showed in the NMST game has makes it clear that he has more upside than Jennings. Harris just needs more playing time.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29311 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

we all know he is capable of sacrificing an NC game to prove a point HIS WAY


What a clown. You are the person that makes people hate LSU fans.
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