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It's time for a new Macbook or Laptop. Suggestions?

Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:33 pm
I currently have the '09 13 inch Macbook unibody. I'm considering looking at the macbook air & other smaller laptops. Especially since I'm mainly using this for streaming music/tv shows, writing & normal internet use.

TIA
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:36 pm to
the macbook air is supposed to get a refresh soon, I wouldn't buy the current gen. I would wait.

Once they release the retina model, the non-retina models might have a nice drop in price.
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Especially since I'm mainly using this for streaming music/tv shows, writing & normal internet use.


I wouldn't waste money on a Macbook in that case then. Can definitely find a laptop under $500 that would suit your needs.
Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:14 pm to
Check out the lenovo yoga series.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:20 pm to


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Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?



Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:21 pm to
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I currently have the '09 13 inch Macbook unibody. I'm considering looking at the macbook air & other smaller laptops. Especially since I'm mainly using this for streaming music/tv shows, writing & normal internet use.

TIA


Sell it on EBay-- trade up to a more current model off Craig's list--

Probably could move up to a 2012 for a few hundred bucks.
Posted by Merciful Lee Dickins
Denver
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:37 pm to
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Especially since I'm mainly using this for streaming music/tv shows, writing & normal internet use.

No need to go spend a grand or more on a MacBook then. Get something cheap
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:52 pm to
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I wouldn't waste money on a Macbook in that case then. Can definitely find a laptop under $500 that would suit your needs.



I never understood this line of thinking.

It's like someone looking at a Mercedes at the dealership, and someone asks "what are you going to use it for?" and the guy says "well, I'm going to use it to drive to and from work, and I'll run errands with it, too, you know, normal car stuff." And the first guy responds "Why are you looking at a Mercedes then? I can definitely find you a Kia under $15K that would suit your needs."

Maybe he doesn't want a piece of shite laptop?
Posted by Merciful Lee Dickins
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 2:56 pm to
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Maybe he doesn't want a piece of shite laptop?

Nothing new is going to be a piece of shite. Since his needs don't require a high powered and expensive machine maybe he would like to spend that money elsewhere. I realize sitting around at the coffee shop or airport on a MacBook makes you look really cool, but sometimes it just isn't worth it.
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:07 pm to
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I never understood this line of thinking.

It's like someone looking at a Mercedes at the dealership, and someone asks "what are you going to use it for?" and the guy says "well, I'm going to use it to drive to and from work, and I'll run errands with it, too, you know, normal car stuff." And the first guy responds "Why are you looking at a Mercedes then? I can definitely find you a Kia under $15K that would suit your needs."

Maybe he doesn't want a piece of shite laptop?


What is a piece of shite laptop if you don’t mind me asking? What's the point of paying all that money for a laptop if you're going to be doing very basic things on it. I’d say the same thing if he was looking for a Windows Laptop. From his post, his needs would more than be met with laptop with an i3 Processor.

He can buy this piece of shite Lenovo for $549.


quote:

Intel Core i7-4510U 2GHz Processor
15.6" FHD LED Glossy Wedge 1920x1080p
1TB Hybrid HDD
8GB DDR3L 1600 Memory
Intel HD Graphics 5000
Bluetooth 4.0
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160
DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)
4-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery
Windows 8.1 (64-Bit)
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:24 pm to
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What is a piece of shite laptop if you don’t mind me asking?


Anyone that runs Windows 8?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:42 pm to
Coming from the most ignorant and delusional poster on the tech board.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Coming from the most ignorant and delusional poster on the tech board.



Yeah maybe so. But of course the literally millions and millions of users that agree with me about Windows 8 are all too...

ETA: Just for kicks Google "I hate Windows 8" check the hit count...
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Vrai
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:52 pm to
I have a 13" Macbook Air for sale in Baton Rouge if you are interested.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

I never understood this line of thinking.

It's like someone looking at a Mercedes at the dealership, and someone asks "what are you going to use it for?" and the guy says "well, I'm going to use it to drive to and from work, and I'll run errands with it, too, you know, normal car stuff." And the first guy responds "Why are you looking at a Mercedes then? I can definitely find you a Kia under $15K that would suit your needs."

Maybe he doesn't want a piece of shite laptop?


The flaw here is equating Mercedes with Apple and Kia with everything else and neglecting everything in between.

Let's stick to the car talk for a second. What's in a Mercedes that makes it better than a Kia? This should be very easy to answer. And yes, I'm setting you up.

Be less stupid.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125418 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:11 pm to
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Yeah maybe so. But of course the literally millions and millions of users that agree with me about Windows 8 are all too...

ETA: Just for kicks Google "I hate Windows 8" check the hit count...



8.1 is bad arse
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 5:32 pm to
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The flaw here is equating Mercedes with Apple and Kia with everything else and neglecting everything in between.



I didn't associate Kia with "everything else." I specifically chose Kia because people were responding with "you should get something under $500." Under $500 is a cheap laptop, much like Kia is a cheap car.

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Let's stick to the car talk for a second. What's in a Mercedes that makes it better than a Kia? This should be very easy to answer. And yes, I'm setting you up.

Be less stupid.


"The parts inside are the same" rabble rabble. I know an Intel processor is an Intel processor and the engine in a Mercedes is not the engine in a Kia. That isn't the point. Aside from the internals, people buy a Mercedes for their luxury features, much like people buy an Apple for their luxury features. My entire point here is that even though both laptops will do what he wants them to do, he might prefer the slim profile, the aluminum chassis, the large trackpad, the sleek design, the superior OS, etc. of a MacBook. Are those not things to consider?

Friends and family always come to me and ask me what laptop they should buy. Nowadays pretty much any laptop is going to serve the needs of most people just fine, as long as you ignore the stupidly crappy low budget garbage. I always tell them that instead of comparing the processor speed and GPU, etc. to actually go into the store, look at the laptops, use the keyboard, see how it feels, does it feel like quality or cheap garbage? Most people aren't going to notice the difference between a 2.0GHz and 2.25GHz processor. But they will notice that their laptop's keyboard is crappy and cumbersome, yet they didn't focus on that when they made a decision. And in my opinion, those things matter a whole lot more.

I'm not even saying that this guy needs to get an Apple computer. It's just silly to purchase the cheapest thing possible just because it is capable of doing what you need. You said that I'm neglecting everything in between, but when did I say that he shouldn't get a $750 laptop? Which is obviously too cheap for a MacBook, but more quality than a sub-$500 cheap piece of shite?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:24 pm to
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but when did I say that he shouldn't get a $750 laptop? Which is obviously too cheap for a MacBook, but more quality than a sub-$500 cheap piece of shite?


The problem is sub-$500 doesn't always mean garbage, and you don't have to spend $700 just so the keyboard isn't crappy. Yes, even with his very, very low use requirements, it is possible to not spend enough. But I'm sure you understand that there is a point of diminishing returns, right? There is a point at which the user experience doesn't change in these low-use scenarios. For what OP would be doing, a $750 laptop would not do it faster than a $500 laptop. And while build quality is a concern in super-cheap laptops, you'll find that many of the chassis designs are pretty standard across the full spectrum of a particular model.

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I'm not even saying that this guy needs to get an Apple computer.


It sure sounded like you were all-or-nothing in your chosen analogy.

I'm all for high-end and getting more than you need, but as a power user myself constantly finding new ways to push my hardware just because, I know I'm in the minority and I have to be careful about suggesting people throw money at something that may not be the center of their work or play time. I always approach any request for computer shopping help with the assumption that the user is looking for bang for buck but isn't quite sure what to look for to meet his specific use scenario. I think most consumers (with the exception of OT ballers) take that approach to practically everything. Many of my PC components are overkill for my general use, but it's a hobby, whereas I assume OP just needs a tool, and tools are meant to help accomplish tasks and are acquired with luxury second to effectiveness in mind, unless funds are less limited.

However, OP owned a Mac previously, might as well get another one. It's familiar and easy. Since he mentioned alternative suggestions, that presents an opportunity to point out that there are indeed cheaper alternatives, and while the Macbook Air is appropriately spec'd, an equivalently priced PC would be overkill. So the two sensible choices here are the familiar Macbook Air that will offer an updated but similar experience with no learning curve, or a PC for 50-60% of the price that will get the job done just as well, offer similar or better hardware but with lower (but not detrimentally lower) build quality, possible increased OS learning curve, and lower battery life. Simply, are the cons worth the discount? Or, are the "luxury" features worth the premium?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:37 pm to
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8.1 is bad arse


Hell I was talking bout 8.1

ETA: Are you saying 8.0 was even worse?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:55 pm to
I'd wait to see when the Macbook Airs get a refresh - that is, a Retina screen. I'd kill for one of those.

If not, and you want it now, go with a 13" Macbook Pro with a Retina screen - it is light and easy to haul around - it is what I use everyday for my business, school work (I'm getting another degree), and everyday stuff. It does everything and looks fantastic.

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