So how would the stretch provision work on EG this offseason?

Stretch provision is taking the salary owed and stretching it out over 2 x seasons remaining + 1. So if we do it next offseason we stretch out the money owed Gordon in the last year of his deal over 3 years. If it's the full $15.5 million, it'd be a $5 million cap hit for 3 years. If he can return to form, you'd hope he could get at least $5 million on the open market (Jodie Meeks got $7) and accept a $10 million buyout which would lead to a $3.3 million cap hit over 3 years if stretched. Here's an article from MM on it last year LINK /

Running the cap numbers I think this played a part in not picking up Rivers' option. If the cap goes up to $67 million (projection before the TV deal) and you keep Asik for $12 million, then you'd have about $9 million in cap space stretching Gordon's full salary and $11 million if you can get him to take a $10 million buyout. Keeping Rivers turns those numbers into $6 - $8 million in cap space which probably wouldn't be enough to get the caliber of SF we're hoping for.

Well I don't think they would even mention or discuss it until he picked up his option.

I'd almost rather just let next season play out, endure another year with that bum and get an MLE SF, and then take our chances in the Summer of 2016 with some serious cash to work with. It might be better to just endure another year of this guy than for him to frick us for 3 years

My hatred for EG grows...

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That's what I'm saying though.

1) The crop isn't that great.
2) We're betting that we will be able to sign the couple guys out there at face value.
3) We're also betting that Austin Rivers is going to want to stick around for less money than his option contact. He's as good as gone. That edge he plays with that the believers think will make him a valuable player someday, is also the same edge that will see him leave for more playing time before taking less money from us.

Dell isn't perfect, and I'm a pretty big fan of his. I'd be just like every other NBA fanboy though if I said he made the right move here. I don't think it was the right call. You mention resigning Rivers for less. What if we lose Rivers and strike out on our targeted SF? We end up with some overpaid body at SF and even less depth than your hypothetical paper thin bench.

What if Benson isn't willing to pay $12 million for this jackass to just go away?

Giving up Rivers at $3m and losing his future RFA rights was a dumb arse move just to have to accommodate Eric Gordon's contract.

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lose Rivers

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I think Rivers will be a solid player, but combo guard has a pretty healthy supply in the league. Guys like Jarrett Jack, Jeryd Bayless, Courtney Lee seem to do nothing but hop from team to team.

You just aren't capable of having an unbiased opinion on Rivers. Many of us overrated Marcus Thornton the same way. Between the local connection, the exciting offense, and the long term hole that we had had at SG, there was a lot to like. But it turns out he was "just a guy" and not as special as many of us initially thought.

I'm not saying losing Rivers and striking out on an SF would be a good thing, but the striking out on the SF would be a much bigger problem to fix than the losing Rivers part.

Sounds like something my 13 year old would come up with. Good try for him tho.

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You are just dismissing anything I say as a Rivers honk who knows nothing about what's going on.

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I'm saying it'd take signing an obvious upgrade for you to let go of Rivers, and with all the uncertainty in the SF market you want to cling tightly. We may strike out and it ends up being the wrong call in hindsight, but in foresight I think most would agree a starting caliber SF is more important to the team than Rivers. If people are unhappy about the state of the roster this year, and there have been quite a few complaints, do you think they'd be any happier next year if all we did was wait out Gordon and add a 2nd string caliber SF with the MLE? I think most would be calling for Demps' head about not moving Gordon and improving the team enough. Sitting still next year isn't an option for Demps.

True.

I believe he's probably referring to Danny or Gerald, too.

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I believe he's probably referring to Danny or Gerald, too.

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Don't leave Jeff out either. He can either be a trade target or opt out.

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I'm saying that I've looked at the free agents, and I don't see this massive $3million discrepancy in who we can sign or who we can't.

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There are a lot of Greens on the market this offseason, which in theory should suppress their value, but if you want your first choice of Green (or any other SF) you are going to have to bring at least $8 million to the table IMO, probably closer to $10. Would it be better to get your 4th choice for $7 instead of your 1st choice for $11? Maybe, but who has plan A as landing their 4th choice?

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Danny or Gerald better not cost us $10 million though is my point.

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Sticker shock is to be expected when in 2 years the cap is expected to explode possibly more than 50% compared to the $58 million cap we've gotten used to. If the cap gets to $90 million as some have speculated then the new MLE will be roughly $7.75 million. $10 million will be the new $6.5 million.