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re: Why do you dislike Ingram?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:27 am to BarbeTiger
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:27 am to BarbeTiger
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what the frick then, arguing with you is pointless. Nothing he does will change your opinion
Exactly.
I want what we all want... another SB victory.
But I will not hyper inflate Mark Ingram just to pump myself up into thinking we beast.
Total team effort last night
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:28 am to BarbeTiger
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Makes sense
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:36 am to JohnZeroQ
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Total team effort last night
Well that's what a takes to win any football game , doesn't mean individual players can't have a great game
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:50 am to BarbeTiger
Let me state early, he is running great right now and has had some really good flashes going all the way back to 2012. That being said, he was a bit slow to acclimate to the speed of the NFL.
The biggest thing that irked me was his hesitation on deciding on which gap to hit. Once he became more decisive, even if the decision was wrong, he became a much better back IMO. I think a lot of his inconsistency last year was tied to his injuries, but I think he's been on an upward climb since late in 2012.
About the Bama-LSU hate, it's "whatever" to me. I can appreciate his passion for his team. I don't put much stock in the emblems myself. It's cool for me to see MSU doing great this year, but when they came to Baton Rouge I still cheered for the Tigers. Football teams are nothing without the players that comprise them, any player will pretty much agree.
The biggest thing that irked me was his hesitation on deciding on which gap to hit. Once he became more decisive, even if the decision was wrong, he became a much better back IMO. I think a lot of his inconsistency last year was tied to his injuries, but I think he's been on an upward climb since late in 2012.
About the Bama-LSU hate, it's "whatever" to me. I can appreciate his passion for his team. I don't put much stock in the emblems myself. It's cool for me to see MSU doing great this year, but when they came to Baton Rouge I still cheered for the Tigers. Football teams are nothing without the players that comprise them, any player will pretty much agree.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:02 am to bountyhunter
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The biggest thing that irked me was his hesitation on deciding on which gap to hit.
This is true, since last preseason though his acceleration through the holes has been phenomenal
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:30 am to BarbeTiger
I don't dislike Ingram at all. I think he is a very good RB and the best one on the team right now.
I do, however, dislike Corey White for being the reason why hyper-reactionary fans are going to the bottom of the well for the "They are just Bama haters" excuse. If White doesn't give up that big play to Golden Tate at the end of the game in Detroit, Saints fans would have been all jazzed up about the team turning things around coming off the bye by getting a tough and impressive road win against an excellent team. And it would have had pretty much nothing all at to do with Mark Ingram who went 10 for 16 yards.
So instead of fans seeing 3 wins off the bye in which overall better play by the team and much improved gameplanning and playcalling by Sean Payton were the main reasons for success, fans are looking at the two wins and pointing toward the shiny running stats of having an RB with two straight 100 yard games against two of the worst rushing defenses in the league. That, however, is not to say Ingram did not perform well. He did. He performed very well when the team was hurting at the position and needed him to tote the mail all by himself.
But yeah, this is Corey White's fault.
I do, however, dislike Corey White for being the reason why hyper-reactionary fans are going to the bottom of the well for the "They are just Bama haters" excuse. If White doesn't give up that big play to Golden Tate at the end of the game in Detroit, Saints fans would have been all jazzed up about the team turning things around coming off the bye by getting a tough and impressive road win against an excellent team. And it would have had pretty much nothing all at to do with Mark Ingram who went 10 for 16 yards.
So instead of fans seeing 3 wins off the bye in which overall better play by the team and much improved gameplanning and playcalling by Sean Payton were the main reasons for success, fans are looking at the two wins and pointing toward the shiny running stats of having an RB with two straight 100 yard games against two of the worst rushing defenses in the league. That, however, is not to say Ingram did not perform well. He did. He performed very well when the team was hurting at the position and needed him to tote the mail all by himself.
But yeah, this is Corey White's fault.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:36 am to BarbeTiger
I actually loved the pick and always wanted him to be featured more. I do still get worried that he is going to fumble.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:40 am to The Pain Train
I'm not going to say a stat-line of 33 carries for 100 yards is 'pretty', but if gumps that hate on Ingram watched the game, you could see most of the time he met a Panther in the backfield or right at the LOS. They bottled him up, but he still made plays.
This is still the same Carolina Defense that was ranked #2 overall last year, minus Greg Hardy. If we could turn out defense around in the last 3 weeks, why can't Carolina? They still have Star and Short. They still have Johnson, Davis, and Kuechly. They added a better run stopping safety in Roman Harper.
It is Corey White's fault, we could be 5-3 right now if it wasn't for his scrub arse trying to make a play instead of tackling Tate for a 8 yard gain, short of a 1st down.
This is still the same Carolina Defense that was ranked #2 overall last year, minus Greg Hardy. If we could turn out defense around in the last 3 weeks, why can't Carolina? They still have Star and Short. They still have Johnson, Davis, and Kuechly. They added a better run stopping safety in Roman Harper.
It is Corey White's fault, we could be 5-3 right now if it wasn't for his scrub arse trying to make a play instead of tackling Tate for a 8 yard gain, short of a 1st down.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:44 am to bigberg2000
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I actually loved the pick and always wanted him to bI do still get worried that he is going to fumble.
He's proven through his career that he isn't a fumbler. 1 fumble in his career
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:36 pm to BarbeTiger
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quote:The 172-yard game was an anomaly. Unfortunately. Not if he's given the carries, what about his game last night off of 3 days rest?
He took 3 years off so he should be rested....
Call it what you want, but contract year and runs hard.
Just in life..anyones life..you have to make the best of any opportunities you get. If Ingram was only getting 10 attempts per game, then it is up to him to make it the best of it.
You earn what you receive. He only got the attempts he earned.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:39 pm to DeathValley85
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Eddie Lacy fat.
I would kill to be Eddie Lacy fat.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:42 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
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Just in life..anyones life..you have to make the best of any opportunities you get. If Ingram was only getting 10 attempts per game, then it is up to him to make it the best of it.
You don't really understand football or Sean Payton do you?
It's OK if you don't. Just go the frick away.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:46 pm to skrayper
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I would kill to be Eddie Lacy fat.
fat thighs bro. like turner fat.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:09 pm to JohnZeroQ
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History tells me Mark either gets hurt or gets shut down when we need it most.
Like against the Eagles in the playoffs
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:15 pm to JohnZeroQ
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I still and always will DISLIKE him
Such logic
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:18 pm to BarbeTiger
Got no problem with him as a person but he's been way too inconsistent as a player for the Saints. It nice he's finally decided to turn it around as of late.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:49 pm to BarbeTiger
Because he was and has been a terrible investment. Kind of like our recent CBs, but at least they were a need.
Fat, lazy, and injury prone for 3 straight years. Starting to look productive only in his contract year.
Fat, lazy, and injury prone for 3 straight years. Starting to look productive only in his contract year.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:27 pm to bmy
His lack of production drove me up the wall. I thought Payton would have learned his lesson after drafting Reggie, then finding Pierre was the better back. Ingram seemed like a repeat, without the tantalizing moments Reggie occasionally gave us.
If he can break out, I'm in Ingram's corner.
If he can break out, I'm in Ingram's corner.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:00 pm to TigerBait1127
You mean when Khiry closed out the game?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:48 pm to BarbeTiger
Given the restrictions, I can only say that when you trade up in the 1st round to get someone, you better get a superstar.
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