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re: How much money will Ingram ask for?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:20 pm to DelU249
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:20 pm to DelU249
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if you want to dismiss his bum shoulder, the injury at RT, the short week on the road in the division, the talent on Carolina's D, and the multiple short yardage runs
Injuries happen, and you do realize that Carolina's defenders were also playing on a short week and most of them played more snaps on Sunday then Ingram did, so I don't get this excuse.
Ingram is a good back, and has shown flashes, but he's not top 10 in the league except to some delusional fanboys. He's a legit starter for this team though.
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:22 pm to Geauxgurt
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and most of them played more snaps on Sunday then Ingram did, so I don't get this excuse.
Lol bc a safety takes the same pounding as a RB
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:23 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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4.9 YPC on the season
In the 4 games outside of the GB game he's averaging 4 ypc. When you only play in 5 games, your stats can easily be inflated by good or bad games.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:24 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Unless the saints are willing to pay stupid money, Ingram is gone. And the Saints aren't going to pay top dollar for a running back under Payton... Ever.
We paid top dollar for Ingram and it was a terrible investment. Lesson learned the hard way.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:25 pm to TigerBait1127
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Lol bc a safety takes the same pounding as a RB
So the pounding DL and LBers take isn't equivalent? Are you seriously arguing that? While it isn't the same type of wearing down it is just as effective, and is exactly why most Thursday Night games are crapfests.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:31 pm to TigerBait1127
True but he's injury prone. Hell, he already got hurt once this season and then got hurt again last night. Can't have an injury prone RB making top dollar like that unless he's worth the risk like Adrian Peterson. Ingram is no AP... 
I think him getting the same salary now would be a fair offer. He's obviously going to ask more in which case the Saints will probably be okay with him leaving. I just hope we don't pick another 1st round RB. They're a dime a dozen in the NFL these days and you can get productive 1st round RBs late in the draft easily. They just don't have value anymore...especially in our system where the load will be shared. Makes a high pick make less sense.
I think him getting the same salary now would be a fair offer. He's obviously going to ask more in which case the Saints will probably be okay with him leaving. I just hope we don't pick another 1st round RB. They're a dime a dozen in the NFL these days and you can get productive 1st round RBs late in the draft easily. They just don't have value anymore...especially in our system where the load will be shared. Makes a high pick make less sense.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:32 pm to TigerBait1127
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Lol bc a safety takes the same pounding as a RB
who cares, payton has a pair of eyes and he sees it...ingram show from here on out.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:34 pm to bmy
His avg over his four years has been 1.8 mil.
Not top dollar brah.
Not top dollar brah.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:36 pm to Geauxgurt
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So the pounding DL and LBers take isn't equivalent? Are you seriously arguing that? While it isn't the same type of wearing down it is just as effective, and is exactly why most Thursday Night games are crapfests.
There is a reason why most RBs only last til their late 20s. Then, you see run stopping DTs play into their 30s. You also see LBs play into their 30s
Oh wait, we have one of those, meet Brodrick Bunkley, 31 years old.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:38 pm to Geauxgurt
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In the 4 games outside of the GB game he's averaging 4 ypc. When you only play in 5 games, your stats can easily be inflated by good or bad games.
You want to cherry pick games, but you take the highest outlier without removing the lowest outlier. That isn't how looking at stats work.
54 carries
243 yards
4.5 ypc
Right where I want a lead RB.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:39 pm to deuce985
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Can't have an injury prone RB making top dollar like that unless he's worth the risk like Adrian Peterson. Ingram is no AP... ?
No doubt
I agree with pretty much your entire post
I think he's probably with resigning if it's under $4 million
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:40 pm to bmy
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We paid top dollar for Ingram and it was a terrible investment. Lesson learned the hard way.
in an era where there are no more Barry Sanders and speed/talent can be found every round of the draft.
Should have used that pick on a guy with some size at Lber.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:57 pm to BobBoucher
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in an era where there are no more Barry Sanders and speed/talent can be found every round of the draft.
Should have used that pick on a guy with some size at Lber.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:14 pm to deuce985
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He didn't show much production before this season. It makes you question if he's only playing in a contract year and it also makes you question his character. Does this mean much? Not necessarily it could just be that the light came on finally.
That's not a fact.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:52 pm to DelU249
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while ingram is dragging his nuts on the naysayers
The only thing he is dragging his nuts on you & some willing Gumps, along with the worst rushing defenses in the league:
ATL 9th worst rushing defense: 60 yards 4.6 avg
CLE 3rd worst rushing defense: 83 yards 7.5 avg
GrB THE worst rushing defense: 172 yards 7.2 avg
CAR 6th worst rushing defense: 100 yards 3.3 avg
When he faced the 2nd BEST rushing defense, Detroit, he got 16 yards on 10 carries for a 1.6 avg. If he had been the feature back and gotten 30 carries like he did in CAR, he could have had 48 yards! (You can commence jizzing!)
The other three games, he was unsurprisingly injured. His inflated numbers compel me to think me he'll ask for more than he's worth after the season, but thankfully, Loomis is not a dimwit.
Good news is, while we still have him, there are only two teams that Ingram is left to face that has a Top Ten rushing defense. The other 6 are currently mediocre to bad against the rush, so barring injury or a hangnail, there are at least 6 more weeks for you and some Gump stat-whores to have a circle jerk over Ingram.
But more importantly, the Saints are winning and, regardless of the competition, Ingram's been fun to watch this year. He's doing it against teams he should do it against which is good. (Game Style Note: I much prefer to see a RB rush for 250 yards instead of a QB pass for 500.)
However, if we are talking re-signing Ingram for Top 10-Top 5 RB money, wake me up when he rushes for 100 against SF or Balt as a feature back then I might join the "Pay the man!" crowd.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:55 pm to LSUFreek
Do you really need to get embarrassed again?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:18 pm to LSUFreek
gumps gumps gumps
we get it, you're fricking retarded
we get it, you're fricking retarded
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:22 pm to htran90
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Right where I want a lead RB.
boom
the cj spillers are welcome to their 5-6 YPC
guys who get goalline work, short yardage work (the dude is playing through two upper body injuries btw) get 4-5 and ingram is fricking beasting
gump gump gump gump
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:26 pm to DelU249
and every analyst on NFL Network Radio, NFL network, Mad dog radio, etc. is praising ingram's performance
sometimes, when you understand the different variables at play, and you see the chains moving, you don't give a frick about a 3.3 YPC
sometimes, when you understand the different variables at play, and you see the chains moving, you don't give a frick about a 3.3 YPC
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:30 pm to SabiDojo
i'll show you when I get it and add the grips
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