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re: How much money will Ingram ask for?

Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:04 am to
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Even last season you can look at his best "few" games and find the other Saints RBs were still averaging more YPC.



He's averaging over 5.5 ypc over his last 16 games. He's leading the league in ypc year among qualified backs
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:07 am to
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He's averaging over 5.5 ypc over his last 16 games. He's leading the league in ypc year among qualified backs



166 carries in 16 games. Come on, bro. DeMarco Murray has more carries in 8 games this season.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:08 am to
while ingram is dragging his nuts on the naysayers, I just wanted to let you know I added another 3" kimber, and I found a steal on some pearl grips

Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30102 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:09 am to
In his last 16 regular season games, he's gone for:
166 carries
817 yards
4.92 ypc
7 TDs

15 receptions
116 yards

Since the Dallas game:
145 carries
767 yards
5.29 ypc
7 TDs
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:09 am to
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Carolina's stadium wasn't full at kickoff last night and was empty well before the game ended. That's the way it is in the modern era with games being televised. 



Not for Saints games
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:10 am to
You bastard! Did you post it on the OB yet? Got a link?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:10 am to
Damn, it really dropped since last game
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30102 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:12 am to
His 3.33ypc sucks.

I was happy to see that when he got met in the backfield, most of the times he made a move or two and gained 1-2 yards instead of losing the 2 yards we are usually used to seeing.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:15 am to
He ran tough yesterday
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:52 pm to
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and one of them is the 3 YPC monster they claim ingram to be


Ingram averaged 3.3 ypc last night
Posted by Tigers2010
Member since Nov 2008
8805 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:57 pm to
Haven't read the thread, so can I just guess that rant tards still hate Ingram?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:08 pm to
every runningback is going to have that game

if you want to dismiss his bum shoulder, the injury at RT, the short week on the road in the division, the talent on Carolina's D, and the multiple short yardage runs

then go ahead...ingram is the back so you'll just have to suck it while we pile up wins
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Ingram averaged 3.3 ypc last night



4.9 YPC on the season
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30102 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:38 pm to
Is he a type of RB that can average 250 carries and 5ypc?

Probably not, we're bad downfield blockers and he doesn't have that speed to burn rubber.

Can he be the type of RB that can hit 250 carries and 4.5ypc?

Yes, and that's all I want.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166238 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:41 pm to
whoever had a problem with last night's 3.3 doesn't know football. That 3.3 was well fricking earned and Carolina was going all out stacking that line and preventing us from getting that run game going.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Adrian Peterson, DeMarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Jamaal Charles, Matt Forte, LeSean McCoy, Ryan Matthews, Eddie Lacy, C.J. Spiller, Arian Foster, Doug Martin...


Also Frank Gore, La'Veon Bell, Alfred Morris, and Justin Forsett are four others that are as good or better than Ingram, and maybe even Fred Jackson.

So that puts 15 equal or better and I'd say 12 are significantly better over time.

That doesn't even include Jeremy Hill and a few other rookies that are standing out.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:05 pm to
Unless the saints are willing to pay stupid money, Ingram is gone. And the Saints aren't going to pay top dollar for a running back under Payton... Ever.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:13 pm to
Ingram is a good back and he's slightly above average at best when you look at his career as a whole.

His injuries alone should warrant any team from giving him above average money. The guys has played 1 full season in 4 years and has missed 14 games in 3.5 years. That isn't a guy you put a lot of money into right now.

I'd like the Saints to keep him, but I think getting a back in the draft is likely the best avenue for the Saints.

Look at guys like Lacy, Hill, Morris, Ballard, Bell, Bernard, and Stacy just in the last 3 drafts. Ingram is not that much better than those guys if better at all and has been in the league 4 years.

In the end, I think the bigger thing is Payton learning to trust a feature back more than Ingram being so awesome.

After his first 3 rushes yesterday, Ingram went 27 rushes for 78 yards or 2.9 yards per carry. That's not dominant. He only got 100 yards because he ran it 30 times.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:16 pm to
He's playing well but the facts are this:

He didn't show much production before this season. It makes you question if he's only playing in a contract year and it also makes you question his character. Does this mean much? Not necessarily it could just be that the light came on finally.

He's injury prone.

Those 2 reasons alone should prevent him from getting big money. If he wants to come back at a reasonable price I'm all for it. Otherwise, if he thinks he's worth top 5 RB money cya.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:19 pm to
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He didn't show much production before this season.


This production happened in the second half of last season
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