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NYT: In the south, dem candidates opening up old racial wounds to spur turnout
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:36 am
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In the final days before the election, Democrats in the closest Senate races across the South are turning to racially charged messages — invoking Trayvon Martin’s death, the unrest in Ferguson, Mo., and Jim Crow-era segregation — to jolt African-Americans into voting and stop a Republican takeover in Washington.
The images and words they are using are striking for how overtly they play on fears of intimidation and repression. And their source is surprising. The effort is being led by national Democrats and their state party organizations — not, in most instances, by the shadowy and often untraceable political action committees that typically employ such provocative messages.
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The Jim Crow talking point makes me guffaw
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It isn't just the south. It's a national strategy.
Ferguson, Trayvon Martin, Duke LaCrosse, Katrina/Bush, and Brawley were all media stories that were/will be used to aggravate racial tension and hopefully create enough fear among blacks to increase their turnout. They appear like bullshite stories with shaky narratives to most of us, but they all involve a lot of outside agitators working hard to frame the discussion in a way that creates fear in some circles while keeping the incident in the national spotlight.
Never let a crisis go to waste....they are great opportunities for the Democrats to crack the whip.
Ferguson, Trayvon Martin, Duke LaCrosse, Katrina/Bush, and Brawley were all media stories that were/will be used to aggravate racial tension and hopefully create enough fear among blacks to increase their turnout. They appear like bullshite stories with shaky narratives to most of us, but they all involve a lot of outside agitators working hard to frame the discussion in a way that creates fear in some circles while keeping the incident in the national spotlight.
Never let a crisis go to waste....they are great opportunities for the Democrats to crack the whip.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:41 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The race card well is full of riches especially if you are Democrat.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:41 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
What's with the NYT? They used to be all in on our side but no so much anymore.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:43 am to TT9
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What's with the NYT
You may want to take screen shots. They've been known to edit stories to soften or eliminate criticism of the Democratic Party and their candidates.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:44 am to member12
I've heard 2 of those ads. All lies, it's not true. The Democrats are following the Sol Alinski Rules of Radicals to lie. If you lie 3 times, people will start to believe it. It's why I quit politics, the lies of the Democrats. We need a strong GOP leader to refute this B.S. with wit and likeability like Reagan did. We need another Reagan type in 2016 or this country will decline.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:45 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
that's not just in the south, some people really have the misguided view that liberals and conservatives (and there's only just the two in their mind) are clearly separated by their views on skin color, religion, gender, etc.
according to vegasbengal, conservatives just walk around judging Mexicans sitting on a bench
according to vegasbengal, conservatives just walk around judging Mexicans sitting on a bench
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:48 am to DelU249
Fox Mulder, the reason people have a misconception about that stuff is because we do an absolutely terrible job at teaching history. When kids are taught about women suffrage, they are told that conservatives opposed it. When taught about slavery, they are told that conservatives supported it.
, etc...
, etc...
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The images and words they are using are striking for how overtly they play on fears of intimidation. And their source is surprising. The effort is being led by national Democrats
Oh how flippin droll, new york times. Yes, it's shocking, absolutely shocking the national Democrats would use fear and rabble-rousing to get votes.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
It will be interesting to see how many of the white women in the South, running away from the black president, will win.
They are running against three terrible candidates.
They are running against three terrible candidates.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 10:58 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Since you're clearly opposed to scare tactics of voters, why haven't you posted those from Republicans?
Like this one:
Tom Cotton
Or this one:
Republican Senate candidate in New Mexico linking the Senator and Obama with images of Isis cutting off a journalist's head.
Or these:
And there are more, all debunked here
You see, it's fine when your side lies and scares the beejesus out of people, because after all... it's your side.
Then you get on your high horse here with this.
Glass houses.
Like this one:
quote:
We now know that it’s a security problem. Groups like the Islamic State collaborate with drug cartels in Mexico who have clearly shown they’re willing to expand outside the drug trade into human trafficking and potentially even terrorism.” He later said, “They could infiltrate our defenseless border and attack us right here in places like Arkansas.”
Tom Cotton
Or this one:
Republican Senate candidate in New Mexico linking the Senator and Obama with images of Isis cutting off a journalist's head.
Or these:
quote:
Scott Brown, the former Senator from Massachusetts now trying to win a Senate seat in New Hampshire, recently attacked his Democratic opponent Sen. Jean Shaheen on the issue of border security, claiming that she has done too little to secure U.S. borders and suggesting that Ebola entering the U.S. could be a consequence.
- See more at: https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2014/10/12/GOP-Campaign-Tactic-Fear-Mongering-Over-Ebola-and-ISIS#sthash.NHKcdqw3.dpuf
quote:
Tillis went for the twofer last week, suggesting that ISIS would bring Ebola across the border in a sort of biological attack on the U.S. “Sen. Hagan has failed the people of North Carolina and the nation by not securing our border…. Ladies and Gentlemen: we have an Ebola outbreak; we have bad actors who can come across the border. We need to seal the border and secure it.”
- See more at: https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2014/10/12/GOP-Campaign-Tactic-Fear-Mongering-Over-Ebola-and-ISIS#sthash.NHKcdqw3.dpuf
And there are more, all debunked here
You see, it's fine when your side lies and scares the beejesus out of people, because after all... it's your side.
Then you get on your high horse here with this.
Glass houses.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:00 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
^ So do you agree or disagree with the ads in the OP?
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:00 am to Vegas Bengal
well i can't speak for the current stuff, but when rand wen up against king, this board was soundly against king and those same tactics
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:38 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I believe that on Sunday they will announce that grand jury in Fergerson didn't indict
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:46 am to TigerintheNO
I can see some cross burnings in GA an NC in the near future also. Definitely some noose sightings. Maybe throw in burning a black church. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Vote against the KKK impeachers!!!
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
politics has always blended fiscal and social, and people not only cannot separate them, but not even historically...to me it is irrelevant that liberals, championing the same fiscal policies they do today, were the power discriminating against blacks during Jim Crow when judging a democratic candidate's merits in a 2014 election.
however, it's misrepresent (like you said) that conservatives did this, did that, etc. and that lie is more easily sold when conservatives typically oppose gay marriage, oppose abortion (even though my opposition, really indifference, is very practical) and oppose illegal immigration
and conservatives can tend to be way out in right field on these issues as liberals are way out in left...it's just slimy mud slinging.
330 million people, there will be instances of racism, sexism, etc. until the end of time, but as a general statement, these are not issues in American society circa 2014...it's just made to appear that way.
however, it's misrepresent (like you said) that conservatives did this, did that, etc. and that lie is more easily sold when conservatives typically oppose gay marriage, oppose abortion (even though my opposition, really indifference, is very practical) and oppose illegal immigration
and conservatives can tend to be way out in right field on these issues as liberals are way out in left...it's just slimy mud slinging.
330 million people, there will be instances of racism, sexism, etc. until the end of time, but as a general statement, these are not issues in American society circa 2014...it's just made to appear that way.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:48 am to Vegas Bengal
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Since you're clearly opposed to scare tactics of voters, why haven't you posted those from Republicans?
This thread is about the topics in the NYT article posted by the OP, which involves the strategy of aggravating racial tension by the Democratic Party to increase voter turnout by using fear and hatred.
I can certainly see why you'd want to deflect from that. This is exactly how the Democratic Party intends to crack the whip with the hopes that their fear will encourage better voter turnout among blacks.
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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they play on fears of intimidation and repression.
To white people its fears of intimidation and repression.
To black people its intimidation and repression.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 11:59 am to SpidermanTUba
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To white people its fears of intimidation and repression.
To black people its intimidation and repression.
You arguing with the Gray Lady. Bizarro world.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:01 pm to DelU249
This strategy has been used by the Democratic party for a while now, and it goes beyond the southern states. It has gotten worse lately because their support among whites is dropping rapidly and many of their candidates aren't winning over hearts and minds with a logical platform. They have to inject emotion and fear into the mix to increase turnout among the types of voters they seek to exploit.
They will keep beating the same old "war on women" and "put you back in chains" drums. That's their version of the "baby killers" from the republican party.
They will keep beating the same old "war on women" and "put you back in chains" drums. That's their version of the "baby killers" from the republican party.
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