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The Federal Reserve ends QE.

Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm
R.I.P.

Strong dollar should continue.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:31 pm to
This is a good thing, but... Brace for impact.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:34 pm to
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This is a good thing, but... Brace for impact.
I suspect current market pricing is reflective. DJIA is down 30.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:34 pm to
Speaking of the economy, tomorrow morning the BEA announces the preliminary estimate of 3rd Quarter GDP.

The Dems are hoping for an October surprise of about +6%. They will likely have to settle for about +3.5%, not enough to sway any votes.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:35 pm to

govt will still print cash to pay for it's bullsh*t spending...
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10837 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:35 pm to

Mission Accomplished
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:36 pm to
Once the market goes back to shite, my bitcoin holdings should skyrocket. Thanks, Feds.
Posted by crawdaddy52
Member since Dec 2010
898 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:39 pm to
You guys have been predicting this crap for 6 years. I know you want the economy to tank so the plutocrats can completely run the show but what I can not figure out is why. Plutocrats do not post on message boards with names like Tigerdroppings - so you're not one of them and you're not gonna win the lottery.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:41 pm to
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You guys have been predicting this crap for 6 years. I know you want the economy to tank so the plutocrats can completely run the show but what I can not figure out is why. Plutocrats do not post on message boards with names like Tigerdroppings - so you're not one of them and you're not gonna win the lottery.



They don't run the show already? I thought that's why we had the Fed, so that the obscenely rich can borrow money for next to nothing.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

You guys have been predicting this crap for 6 years. I know you want the economy to tank so the plutocrats can completely run the show but what I can not figure out is why. Plutocrats do not post on message boards with names like Tigerdroppings - so you're not one of them and you're not gonna win the lottery.




What the hell does any part of that post have to do with what I posted?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:43 pm to
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The Dems are hoping for an October surprise of about +6%. They will likely have to settle for about +3.5%, not enough to sway any votes.


6% would be pretty huge. But I don't know how much of an impact these kind of numbers would have on Obama's party only one week out of the midterms. It can't hurt though.

Ebola is probably on the minds of more Americans than GDP numbers. ;dunno:
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105415 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:43 pm to
it doesn't he just wanted to write pludocrats
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10837 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:44 pm to
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Plutocrats do not post on message boards with names like Tigerdroppings - so you're not one of them and you're not gonna win the lottery.


People posting on tigerdroppings didnt get to the window for QE1/2/3 either. Not sure what your point is.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:47 pm to
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I know you want the economy to tank so the plutocrats can completely run the show
Dude, you got your solarsystem objects messed up.
Moonbats want the economy to crash. Plutocrats don't.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:49 pm to
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govt will still print cash to pay for it's bullsh*t spending...


The federal reserve printed -$1.6 Trillion and purchased treasury bonds and mortgage backed securities with it.

The federal government used a lot of the money for deficit spending.

It will be interesting to see (in the coming months) if the US Treasury begins to have a little difficulty selling bonds. The market will force them to lower their price and that's going to put upward pressure on interest rates.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:58 pm to
Our economy will collapse on itself within 5 years.

Git yer gold and silver.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Our economy will collapse on itself within 5 years.


Could you please expand on this assertion please? I would like to understand the steps that will bring us to a collapse in the next 5 years. If you can explain it at a macro level that would be just fine. I'm not trying to be a jackass...I really want to understand.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:08 pm to
I come to this conclusion from two points of view.

One a secular, researched POV that applies basic monetary algorithms.

Do you understand how underwater America is in the debt department? It is astronomical and it can be used against us by people who don't like us.

Read the worldwide news, not just American news and you will see that Russia, China and even Iran are building a coalition. China by dumping all their US bonds could cause interest rates in America to rise by 1 percent. Russia and China could form a partnership to rid the world of the Petro Dollar since the US has devalued its worth by printing money without any backing.

In other words, we have set the stage for other countries to be able to destroy our economy. We are so far in debt that a small increase in interest rates would have a devastating effect on our economy. Thus the QE the feds have been using to prop up the stock markets ( who fear rising interest rates and its effect on our markets and our economy ) .

When interest rates rise, and they will, because Chinas economy is being hurt because their monetary unit and economy is being hurt by a weak dollar, their best way to fight this is dumping US Treasury Bonds causing our interest rates to rise and correcting the weakening dollar.

The US knows this, and announced today they are ending Q.E. and this will make our Stock Markets correct their over valued paper gains.

Interest rates will rise when the feds quit printing money, and a rise of 1 or 2 percent with our debt is going to destroy our economy because our debt is going to spiral out of control.

We have too many people on the public dole to right an economic collapse like 1929. When this happens Russia, China and others will take advantage, they already have a plan to replace the Petro Dollar.

Just replacing the Dollar with another currency would hurt the U.S.'s economy vastly, and if the U.S. and their ill advised rulers are what bring about a worldwide economic collapse, the US will be seen as a lepor and no one will want to follow us anymore.

Secondly is my religious research, Europe must become the leader of the world, so the U.S. has to become irrelevant. Also for there to be a one world dictator, you have to have an economic collapse, ( people only give up their rights when they are scared or fearful )to have a worldwide economic collapse, that means that the leader of the world economy ( U.S. ) has to lead the world into an economic collapse.

Obama knows what he is doing, he is destroying our country with DEBT, ILLEGAL ALIENS, and by pitting blacks against whites, latinos against Americans, women against men etc etc.

Obama wants our country to become third world like.

He is clearing the way for the Roman Ruler.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 7:19 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Our economy will collapse on itself within 5 years.

Git yer gold and silver.

I feel like this was also the prediction when the beginnings of the QE rounds were announced.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71177 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:18 pm to
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They don't run the show already? I thought that's why we had the Fed, so that the obscenely rich can borrow money for next to nothing.


Game, Set, Match Hemphead.
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