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Taking in foreign Ebola patients...
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:24 am
Let's discuss...
1- How many?
2- Which ones?
2A- Who decides which ones?
3- Who pays?
4- Liability if US healthcare workers or others get sick and die?
5- Liability if US healthcare workers get sick and just whine about having their lives disrupted like Kaci Hickox?
1- How many?
2- Which ones?
2A- Who decides which ones?
3- Who pays?
4- Liability if US healthcare workers or others get sick and die?
5- Liability if US healthcare workers get sick and just whine about having their lives disrupted like Kaci Hickox?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 10:25 am
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:26 am to Meauxjeaux
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Kaci Hickox
She seems like the worst kind of person to deal with.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:32 am to Meauxjeaux
1. 30 at a time
2. Early diagnosed victims reporting to one of US Army built treatment centers.
2a. Doctors at treatment centers using guidelines (how sick, age, general health).
3. We do.
4. Zero. We have NIH and CDC doctors along with volunteer doctors like Doctors Without Borders. What is better for the volunteers is that they work in a very controlled environment in the US as opposed to West Africa so volunteers are more available.
5. Zero. We don't forcibly quarantine doctors who work in the US even if they work with infectious diseases.
I actually think this is a great idea, although I am not convinced the administration is seriously planning it.
2. Early diagnosed victims reporting to one of US Army built treatment centers.
2a. Doctors at treatment centers using guidelines (how sick, age, general health).
3. We do.
4. Zero. We have NIH and CDC doctors along with volunteer doctors like Doctors Without Borders. What is better for the volunteers is that they work in a very controlled environment in the US as opposed to West Africa so volunteers are more available.
5. Zero. We don't forcibly quarantine doctors who work in the US even if they work with infectious diseases.
I actually think this is a great idea, although I am not convinced the administration is seriously planning it.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:36 am to mmcgrath
quote:
1. 30 at a time
ah, I get it. So the 4,00 troops are actually there for this ----->
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:41 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:Well, the "30 at a time" would actually be the number of patients we could transport in a given flight. We could probably run a flight a day at max capacity. Most of the treatments would be done at the new facilities that the army is setting up, so that the outcome percentages are much higher.
ah, I get it. So the 4,00 troops are actually there for this ----->
Taking patients over here would allow us to train US doctors so that we would be better prepared for worse emergencies. Could save millions of lives in the long run if our medical professionals have better training / experience.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:48 am to mmcgrath
Is this real life?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:49 am to fontell
quote:What do you mean?
Is this real life?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:50 am to mmcgrath
quote:
3. We do.
frick you.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:51 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Taking patients over here would allow us to train US doctors
So you want to import the infected and train doctors here for a disease that originates in Africa?
Build facilities in Africa and train African doctors to treat this disease. You are sticking your finger in the leaking dam by bringing 30 people a day here.
CDC
As of October 24, 2014
(Updated October 25, 2014)
Total Cases: 10141
Laboratory-Confirmed Cases: 5692
Total Deaths: 4922
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:51 am to lsu13lsu
quote:For not wanting to be illegally detained by the government? Where are the conservatives on this?
She seems like the worst kind of person to deal with.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:05 am to MrLarson
quote:Those numbers are totals for all of 2014. The number of newly identified cases is roughly 900 a week right now and a lot of those are DOA, not people being treated. 30 / day (210 / week) plus the capacity of the new facilities we are building would put a significant dent in those numbers.
Build facilities in Africa and train African doctors to treat this disease. You are sticking your finger in the leaking dam by bringing 30 people a day here.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:06 am to mmcgrath
quote:
plus the capacity of the new facilities we are building would put a significant dent in those numbers.
why are we building facilities for these people of another country.
let them die.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:07 am to CptBengal
quote:Great talking to you. So not a penny for anyone but yourself, amiright? Not to mention that we are already spending money on the situation, as we should, and this new option may be the most cost efficient.
frick you.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:12 am to mmcgrath
LINK
By September 14, 2014, a total of 4507 probable and confirmed cases, including 2296 deaths from EVD (Zaire species) had been reported from five countries in West Africa — Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. We analyzed a detailed subset of data on 3343 confirmed and 667 probable Ebola cases collected in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone as of September 14.
Fast forward 1 month and those numbers are double. The CDC thinks there could be 55,000 cases by January. 30 people a day isn't going to do jack.
By September 14, 2014, a total of 4507 probable and confirmed cases, including 2296 deaths from EVD (Zaire species) had been reported from five countries in West Africa — Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. We analyzed a detailed subset of data on 3343 confirmed and 667 probable Ebola cases collected in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone as of September 14.
Fast forward 1 month and those numbers are double. The CDC thinks there could be 55,000 cases by January. 30 people a day isn't going to do jack.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:15 am to FT
Illegally detained? Why is it illegal? I bet you would shite going through an agricultural inspection station in California.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:16 am to mmcgrath
quote:
we are already spending money on the situation, as we should
what reason, under the guidelines of the Constitution, does the US have to spend money to treat foreign nationals with a deadly infectious disease.
tia.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:17 am to texashorn
quote:Because you can't keep someone locked up by state order for 21 days if they haven't committed a crime.
Why is it illegal?
quote:I don't know what this means, but I would likely use whatever bathroom they had to shite.
I bet you would shite going through an agricultural inspection station in California.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:18 am to FT
quote:
Because you can't keep someone locked up by state order for 21 days if they haven't committed a crime.
look up medical quarantine. You're wrong.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:20 am to FT
It appears her accommodations were less than optimal, but I have NO problem with her being quarantined for the prescribed period of time in a realistic setting.
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