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zach lowe's NBA tiers

Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:37 pm
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New Orleans Pelicans

The Pellies have the highest ceiling of this group thanks to our new overlord Anthony Davis and a starry top six that have at least a shot at meshing better than anticipated. The combination of Omer Asik and Davis should shut off the rim for a team that ranked a ghastly 26th in points allowed per possession last season, especially if Monty Williams follows Thibodeau’s Team USA lead in dropping Davis back against the pick-and-roll. But the team’s offense bogged down when Davis shared the floor last season with true centers like Alexis Ajinca and Greg Stiemsma. Asik is a better pick-and-roll player than those two, but he has stone hands and his range extends no further than the length of his arm. Toss in Tyreke Evans, a non-shooter and perhaps the de facto starter at the barren small forward position, and the Pelicans might not have enough spacing in their potential starting five.

New Orleans is frighteningly punchless beyond its top six, but Williams still has a few remedies at hand. He could start Darius Miller at small forward and stick him in the corners, and then have Evans driving like a bulldozer off the bench with Ryan Anderson — a.k.a. the Grenade Launcher. Lineups featuring those two scorched earth last season, and though Anderson is a defensive liability at power forward, the basket should be a no-fly zone as long as either Davis or Asik are nearby to patrol it. Having Jrue Holiday back hounding dudes at the point of attack will be huge, and he’s a good enough shooter to spot up around Evans’s pick-and-rolls when they share the floor.

This is a shallow team that can’t afford bad luck with health, and the two highly paid wings here — Evans and Eric Gordon — have to prove they can blend with everyone else. There are too many questions to slot these guys into the playoffs ahead of more accomplished teams, but there could be something here. There’d better be, considering all the first-round picks they’ve tossed away.


fair assessment in my view
but this should be an exciting team to watch, and hopefully there will be meaninful games played in april this year

see yall at the blender tonite
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:42 pm to
Lowe is generally high on the Pelicans and he may be the only person who has confidence in Monty Williams.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 12:56 pm to
So pretty much:

Tier 1(ship contenders):

Spurs
Cavs
Clippers(yuck)
OKC

Tier 2(CF contenders):
Bulls(tier 1.5?)
Memphis
Warriors(hmmm)

Tier 3(playoff near locks)

Dallas(solid argument for tier 2)
Portland
Houston(meh)
Wizards
Raptors

Tier 4(on the cusp of meta relevance):

Pels
Suns
Nuggets
Hawks
Heat
Hornets
Pistons

Tier 5(rogue):

Both new york teams
Utah
Orlando
Bucks


Tier Trash:

Celtics
Pacers
Lakers
Kings
Wolves











76ers






This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Jae Crowder and Al-Farouq Aminu bring beastly defense off the bench
Smh...

So tired of every article i've read this offseason acting like Aminu is Scottie Pippen. There's absolutely nothing "beastly" about anything Aminu does on a basketball, other rebound well, for his position. Certainly nothing beastly about his defense. Do "beasts" like Aminu typically have to wait until the end of the free agency period to finally get a league minimum contract offer?
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:10 pm to
Nah dude is scrub-tier
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Lowe is generally high on the Pelicans
Lowe said a week ago that the Pels have a 20% chance to make the playoffs I'd say he has them pegged for what they are.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Do "beasts" like Aminu typically have to wait until the end of the free agency period to finally get a league minimum contract offer?


2 years in a row. He seemed like a pity re-signing last season.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:51 pm to
Can't see how he's high on the rockets.

Team should be a tier lower.



Posted by TheJruth
New Orleans - Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
323 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:03 pm to
Been saying this - If anyone slips in that list and lets Pels in the playoffs - It's going to be Dallas. Their two best players could easily go down for the season. Just as easy as EG or Tyreke could.
Posted by death valley driver
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Member since Jul 2004
11595 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:09 pm to
Don't agree with him calling our bench punchless considering a bunch of them started the 2nd half of last season and played well all things considering. Jimmer and Babs will go bombs away from deep this year
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:20 pm to
This season is going to be awesome if we stay healthy.

I like Memphis enough but I don't see them being 2 tiers ahead of us. We can easily be as good as Houston/Dallas/GSW.

Houston just doesn't scare me that much for some reason. Yeah, they will probably be in the playoffs but we should be able to split with them. Everyone bashes our bench but theirs is no better.

I think the tiers are pretty fair but would bump us and Phoenix to tier 3 and probably jump Dallas to tier 2, I think they've improved.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Can't see how he's high on the rockets. Team should be a tier lower.
Best C and best 2 guard in the L. Elite at 3 positions defensively(Howard, Bev, Ariza). One of most efficient teams offensively in the league since Harden has been there. I don't know what's not to like with the exception of a few questions marks about the bench. They should be top 10 offensively and defensively that's a sure fire playoff team in todays NBA.
Posted by JayJay2
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Member since Jul 2010
15359 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:27 pm to
Elite and Ariza don't mix. I can give you 5 and 2... 3, not so much. Now take that and leave. I don't understand why you come back.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:27 pm to
I think 3rd tier is fine and they should make the playoffs but the Pelicans could easily finish with the better record. They are far from elite and are are nothing more than a 1st/2nd round playoff exit team, similar to what we hope the Pels are right now.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

but the Pelicans could easily finish with the better record.
No No No.

A .500 season would be a success for the Pels. a .500 season for Houston and the coach and GM would be fired.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:37 pm to
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A .500 season would be a success for the Pels.


Well a .500 season will probably get our coach and GM fired so I disagree.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:38 pm to
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Well a .500 season will probably get our coach and GM fired
I disagree
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:43 pm to
Oh, I see VOR has rubbed off on you.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

few questions marks about the bench.


A few?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Oh, I see VOR has rubbed off on you.
in what way? I would love to see monty gone but I don't think a .500 season would send him packing.
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