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re: A Featured RB
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:09 am to SnoopALoop
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:09 am to SnoopALoop
The only scary thing about Pierre is that when he's in on 3rd downs, defenses most likely know it's either a screen or some quick pass. If they do, however, use PT the way they use Ingram..... it'd have the same effect we just saw last night.
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:12 am to DelU249
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Hes a hard runner who doesn't bring the safeties down and doesn't open up our offense
The deep passing plays were not a coincidence
All of this, especially the bold. I, admittedly had given up on Ingram. I wasn't very pleased with the pick either, BUT he appears to have figured things out (finally).
While I am happy for him and believe he should get a shot as the feature back, we all need to remember that Green Bay has a Turrible run defense!
He does give us a hard nosed runner like Khiry, but with more agility to make people miss when needed. His vision is infinitely better than any other point in his young career.
And as stated above, his hard running style along with his ability to make people miss, forces the safeties to creep up closer to the LOS. This will help the passing game tremendously.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:13 am to SnoopALoop
The problem I see with RB by committee, is the playcalling becomes more predictable based on the personnel. We run with Ingram and pass with Pierre(broad generalization,obviously not every time). I think teams are able to lock on that better and it takes away from both the run game and play action.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:21 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
Yep.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:23 am to lsupride87
I've been saying this all year
If payton doesn't see it now he never will. Guy is stubborn for better or worse
If ingram sees a full workload on Thursday, I have confidence we're going to the playoffs and not just to get buttfricked in round 1
If payton doesn't see it now he never will. Guy is stubborn for better or worse
If ingram sees a full workload on Thursday, I have confidence we're going to the playoffs and not just to get buttfricked in round 1
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:28 am to DelU249
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If ingram sees a full workload on Thursday, I have confidence we're going to the playoffs and not just to get buttfricked in round 1
we ran well at philly last year on the road in the playoffs. not bad at seattle either if i recall.run game on the road is ESPECIALLY key. keeps other offense off the field and keeps our d fresh. eats clock. takes crowd out as well. drew is almost unstoppable when we commit to the run like we did last night.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 8:54 am to Fat Bastard
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The only scary thing about Pierre is that when he's in on 3rd downs, defenses most likely know it's either a screen or some quick pass. If they do, however, use PT the way they use Ingram..... it'd have the same effect we just saw last night.
Yep. The PT screens seem to get sniffed out quickly when we play a quality D.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:27 am to DelU249
quote:In fairness, after 24 carries on Sunday night, I don't think we should be giving him a full workload Thursday night, but I agree in general, I'd love to see him get a standard 20 or so carries per game.
If ingram sees a full workload on Thursday, I have confidence we're going to the playoffs and not just to get buttfricked in round 1
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:31 am to LSUfan20005
the best game Thomas had was when he was used so much the defense wasn't sniffing shite out
and that was against the vaunted tampa D and we barely squeezed by
BELL COW TIME
and that was against the vaunted tampa D and we barely squeezed by
BELL COW TIME
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:36 am to infantry1026
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we all need to remember that Green Bay has a Turrible run defense
in dallas last year he had daylight everywhere and didn't need to do anything to "earn" his yards (though he was still just as good as he is now)
Last night, his yards were earned
breaking tackles
dragging players
moving the pile
making cuts in the open field
bouncing to the outside
He was incredible...green bay's run defense gives the cutback run because Matthews and peppers overpursue, he was running right up the gut and trucking haha Clinton dix, and moving the pile to where a green bay defender got in front, but with his back to the pile and was desperately pushing back...it was so easy for him
He won't do that every week, but you see what the threat of ingram will do for our play action pass...on the 4th and 2, every single GB player was down on the LOS, as they were for many plays...We do that every game, even to marginal effect, and we're one of the toughest outs in the NFL
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:55 am to bamabenny
Give me Robinson as the featured back 5.2 ypc with double ingrams carries
Robinson over Ingram??? Come on man be serious.. Ingram has got to be the feature back from here on out and yes give Robinson some carries to spell Ingram on each series but Ingram should receive at least 15 to 20 a game
Robinson over Ingram??? Come on man be serious.. Ingram has got to be the feature back from here on out and yes give Robinson some carries to spell Ingram on each series but Ingram should receive at least 15 to 20 a game
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:56 am to jbritt25
Ingram has 5.7 YPC over his last 102 carries
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:07 am to DelU249
I'd like to see PT get a few plays a game and Robinson get 3-4 carries to mix things up, but Ingram should be in on the vast majority of plays, both run and pass.
I would love for Sean to break tendency and have him as a featured back instead of RBBC.
I would love for Sean to break tendency and have him as a featured back instead of RBBC.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:36 am to Fun Bunch
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I'd like to see PT get a few plays a game and Robinson get 3-4 carries to mix things up
to do what exactly? telegraph plays? I'm not saying ingram should get 100% of the carries, but close to it.
I can take the hit in the screen plays if ingram is chewing up yards and defenses are putting the extra man in the box
what is wrong with you people? I've been saying this for 2 years and last night we finally see the effect it has on our offense AND defense (because offenses feel they must score every possession)
we don't need to find a way to get 3 backs involved. We need to feed ingram and stop getting in his way with cadet motions...there should be 3-5 touches a game that don't go to ingram and 5-10 snaps a game where ingram isn't the runningback on the field
when will it be clear that ingram brings a different and much more crucial dimension then these other guys
payton needs to stop fricking around and let ingram tote it until his legs fall off.
we all agree that the offensive numbers are there but the consistency is not, that's because we've been fricking around with ways to get lesser running backs involved
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:43 am to sicboy
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You have to use PT when he's healthy
If Ingram can put up performances like last night on a consistent basis you keep PT on the bench.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:44 am to DelU249
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to do what exactly? telegraph plays? I'm not saying ingram should get 100% of the carries, but close to it.
I said Ingram should be the feature back and should be in on the vast majority of plays. But he's not going to be in on every play. That's just not going to happen. Khiry can give him 2-4 "breather" carries a game.
PT can be in on 3-4 pass plays a game in protection or in the flat. The rest should be all Ingram.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:46 am to Fun Bunch
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PT can be in on 3-4 pass plays a game in protection or in the flat
I don't know how Gaylord PFF rated him, but ingram was the man in pass protection last night. khiry or pierre 2-4 a game sure, but no more of this specialty garbage.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:48 am to SippyCup
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If Ingram can put up performances like last night on a consistent basis you keep PT on the bench
THANK YOU!!!!!
and he will so long as we make them pay when they crowd the box to stop him.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:49 am to DelU249
quote:My man!
Ingram is infinitely better, and every single time he loses a touch to PT save for needed breathers is a waste
I think PT is probably the back that needs to be in the game when we're trying to catch up or move the ball down the field on that last drive or before the half because he's soooo good at pass blocking and catching the ball and creating plays. The man just gets first downs.
Any other plays? The meat and potato plays? That has to be Ingram.
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:50 am
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:51 am to The Sad Banana
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he's soooo good at pass blocking
so is ingram
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Any other plays? The meat and potato plays?
opposing defenses need to think any and every play can be a meat and potatoes play, so you keep ingram in.
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The man just gets first downs
was ingram playing with his dick last night?
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:53 am
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