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re: Stolen from OT: No chemical weapons in Iraq, except for the ones ISIS just used
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:30 am to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:30 am to Vegas Bengal
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There Bush and Cheney tried to spin the findings
Good lord VB is this really a "gotcha" moment? Politicians wrong then try to spin it to their advantage.
Never seen that before.
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:30 am to goatmilker
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I know you have read all the quotes from Clinton, Gore, Kerry and many other Dems when they were in power and getting intel briefings then coming to the mics and saying the exact things Bush said.
Yes that was right before operation Desert Fox when Clinton bomb the hell out of those WMD sites he claimed they had:
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By December 19, U.S. and British aircraft had struck 97 targets, and Secretary of Defense William Cohen claimed the operation was a success. Supported by Secretary Cohen, as well as United States Central Command commander General Anthony C. Zinni and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Henry H. Shelton, President Bill Clinton declared "victory" in Operation DESERT FOX. In total, the 70-hour campaign saw U.S. forces strike 85 percent of their targets, 75 percent of which were considered "highly effective" strikes. More than 600 sorties were flown by more than 300 combat and support aircraft, and 600 air dropped munitions were employed, including 90 air launched cruise missiles and 325 Tomahawk land attack missiles (TLAM). Operation DESERT FOX inflicted serious damage to Iraq's missile development program, although its effects on any WMD program were not clear. Nevertheless, Operation DESERT FOX was the largest strike against Iraq since the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, until the commencement of Operation IRAQI FREEDOM.
And back the Republicans called it all bullshite and Clinton's attempt to divert attention from Monica. Four years later, they took the same information, ignored the results of the bombing campaign and used it as justification to invade.
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:33 am to Vegas Bengal
Saddam kick out the inspectors. Months go by. More UN resolutions as asked by everyone on the planet. More ultimatums more votes and resolutions. Months and months go by and for reasons I still don't understand Saddam flipped the bird to the UN and the US.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:33 am to goatmilker
And yet they haven't told the truth, according to Choctaw, that Iraq in fact had WMD. They instead agreed with Dufler that they had the capability to start a new program.
The mental gymnastics you guys go through every day to justify the past
The mental gymnastics you guys go through every day to justify the past
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:35 am to son of arlo
quote:Just about everything. But most importantly nuclear material suitable for a nuclear weapon. He didn't even have enough raw nuclear material.
What was he lacking?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:36 am to WeeWee
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Iraq officials said two other crude chlorine gas attacks have occurred, though few details exist, the Post reported.
How crude are we talking here? Mixing bleach and ammonia isn't exactly complicated. You don't need to raid a chemical weapons depot for that.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:41 am to Vegas Bengal
I don't recall using any 
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:42 am to Vegas Bengal
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So why not invade Iran, North Korea, Syria just to make sure for them as well?
Um...Syria is at the plate now.
Iran is apparently on deck.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:56 am to Vegas Bengal
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And back the Republicans called it all bullshite and Clinton's attempt to divert attention from Monica
Clinton was already being impeached at the time of Desert Fox. The claimed "diversion" was the Sudan strike in August of 1998 that supposedly hit a pharmaceutical plant.
I suppose some may have said Fox was a diversion as well considering it was happening right before to the date of his impeachment, but the more famously declared diversion was the Sudan strike.
At least, that's how I remember it
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:59 am to mmcgrath
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The reason Bush and Cheney aren't talking is because they are soooo humble.
yeah...Bush has been all over the television since his Presidency ended
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:05 am to Vegas Bengal
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And all this was going on when we had 200,000 troops on their border, our navy off their coast and our Air Force flying over their country enforcing the no fly zones (not to mention on satellites) and we didn't see any of this?
Apparently a lot of things can be hidden over there. Obama totally missed the growth of ISIS didn't he?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:06 am to a want
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Bush's case was based on Iraq's ongoing manufacturing of WMDs.
Not so. the contention existing WMD's and precursor materials to reconstitute the program.
and just as a side note, bush was correct to invade Iraq.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:08 am to goatmilker
quote:Funny how we didn't care what he did or didn't do, have or didn't have, until he threatened the Petro dollar and refused to cooperate with the international banking cabal.
Saddam kick out the inspectors. Months go by. More UN resolutions as asked by everyone on the planet. More ultimatums more votes and resolutions. Months and months go by and for reasons I still don't understand Saddam flipped the bird to the UN and the US.
Then, overnight, he was portrayed as a murderous dictating WMD horder.
But, I'm sure that was all just coincidence.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:21 am to mmcgrath
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But most importantly nuclear material suitable for a nuclear weapon. He didn't even have enough raw nuclear material.
He had yellowcake, not raw ore. The bomb design the UN inspectors found in Iraq called for ~30 lbs of U235. Five hundred tons of yellowcake is plenty even with sloppy refining.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:23 am to Vegas Bengal
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Iraq in fact had WMD
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:25 am to WeeWee
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The militants have a former Iraqi chemical weapons factory within their captured territory, though officials said that the 2,500 weapons there are likely unfit for use and were sealed in a bunker more than 20 years ago.
Isn't it great the inspectors abandoned their monitoring of this facility when Bush invaded Iraq?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:27 am to TX Tiger
Some of what you say is correct as well.
The 1st war was a fight over oil and liberation of that almost England like country to the US of Kuwait. It was stated as such.
The second war after 9-11 was stated as assuring the US citizens that saddam would have no WMD to sell or give to terrorist for use against us in another 9-11.
The 1st war was a fight over oil and liberation of that almost England like country to the US of Kuwait. It was stated as such.
The second war after 9-11 was stated as assuring the US citizens that saddam would have no WMD to sell or give to terrorist for use against us in another 9-11.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 11:10 am to goatmilker
quote:The 1st war was fought for the reasons I outlined in my previous post, but we ran like frightened rabbits when Saddam began burning the oil wells.
Some of what you say is correct as well.
The 1st war was a fight over oil and liberation of that almost England like country to the US of Kuwait. It was stated as such.
The second war after 9-11 was stated as assuring the US citizens that saddam would have no WMD to sell or give to terrorist for use against us in another 9-11.
9/11 provided the excuse to go back in and finish the job.
But go ahead and keep believing that our government would spend a fortune and put our military in harms way to "liberate" people on the other side of the globe, when it couldn't give two fricks about its own people right here in the U.S.A.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 1:50 pm to a want
Bush's case was based on CIA info you azz0 liberal, the same CIA info that Clinton received in 1999. Everyone knows the Iraqis had chemical weapons except you liberal idiots who attacked our president during war time for politial gain in order to get your perverted agenda through in D.C., that's all that matters to you backwards POS's.
An Iraqi general has admitted as much and told how they were moved to Syria.
Of course since Saddam broke his cease fire agreement Bush had every right to take action against a tyrant who murdered 1.6 innocent civilians.
traitorous azz0's be damned.
An Iraqi general has admitted as much and told how they were moved to Syria.
Of course since Saddam broke his cease fire agreement Bush had every right to take action against a tyrant who murdered 1.6 innocent civilians.
traitorous azz0's be damned.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 2:37 pm to Vegas Bengal
"The Iraq Study Group"
"The United States Institute of Peace"
We are living in an Ayn Rand novel with these titles.
"The United States Institute of Peace"
We are living in an Ayn Rand novel with these titles.
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