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Does a quid pro quo exist that kept good rep. Senate candidates off the ballot?

Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:30 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:30 am
We see Mary's ad with Bollinger and the other big money republicans that have benefited from federal pork. I wonder if these guys put the word out to the state republicans the purse was closed if a good candidate entered the race??

Will Vitter collect huge contributions in his campaign for Governor, for example?

No question in my mind that the party could have found a more popular candidate than Cassidy. No question on my mind Cassidy could be running a MUCH better campaign.

I hope Cassidy wins but I got to say I don't think he is going too if he continues his present strategy. Democrat money is going to flood in for the runoff all the while Landrieu pork projects are keeping large local republican contributors on the bench or in the case of Bollinger--on the other team.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 10:32 am
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:32 am to
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I hope Cassidy wins
Cassidy is basically just a Republican for this election. You'll get the same votes as you would from Mary, minus the pork. They both suck, but I'll at least take the one that's bringing money into Louisiana.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67009 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:42 am to
Cassidy was not the state GOP (read Jindal)'s first choice. They wanted Boustany, but Boustany is looking forward to a senate run to replace Vitter (a state GOP pariah). Scalise wanted to stay in his district since he had just won some serious clout in Congress. Jindal is obviously still governor, so if he wanted to return to capital hill, his shot would be when Vitter runs for governor. Dardenne has his eyes focused on the state capital and Strain lacks the clout for a Senate run at this time. This left the cupboard relatively bare for this election.

Cassidy was seen as the unoffensive candidate. With his medical background, he was seen as someone who could contrast with Mary on Obamacare. The entire state and national GOP (including EVEN VITTER!) united to defeat Mary. The issue is that Cassidy is not a natural politician. He never was, he's just a wealthy doctor. One of his patients husbands (who was unhappy with his current representation and wanted to spite him) put him up to running for state office years ago and he found himself in the right circles for advancement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421771 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:45 am to
it's tough for a good candidate to emerge b/c the bigger the race, the bigger you have to sell out and make promises. promises to help groups = bad candidate. it's kind of telling when landrieu's major selling point is that she knows how to rob others to help louisianians...shows that the system is broken and fedgov is way too powerful
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:50 am to
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it's tough for a good candidate to emerge
I think its tough for good conservative candidates to emerge, especially on the national level, because of how they tend to be put under a microscope by the media. There are plenty of people who be great Republican leaders, but have no desire to put up with the BS that comes along with it.

And yes you are correct.....asking for money.....leads to favors.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:06 am to
At least Cassidy is not Woody.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:10 am to
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You'll get the same votes as you would from Mary,
This is so uninformed and naive on so many levels.....
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14484 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:12 am to
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Cassidy was not the state GOP (read Jindal)'s first choice. They wanted Boustany, but Boustany is looking forward to a senate run to replace Vitter (a state GOP pariah). Scalise wanted to stay in his district since he had just won some serious clout in Congress. Jindal is obviously still governor, so if he wanted to return to capital hill, his shot would be when Vitter runs for governor. Dardenne has his eyes focused on the state capital and Strain lacks the clout for a Senate run at this time. This left the cupboard relatively bare for this election.

Cassidy was seen as the unoffensive candidate. With his medical background, he was seen as someone who could contrast with Mary on Obamacare. The entire state and national GOP (including EVEN VITTER!) united to defeat Mary. The issue is that Cassidy is not a natural politician. He never was, he's just a wealthy doctor. One of his patients husbands (who was unhappy with his current representation and wanted to spite him) put him up to running for state office years ago and he found himself in the right circles for advancement.


Really, really good analysis.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:13 pm to
You don't think those guys like Bollinger aren't playing both sides of the fence.

Trust me, their bets are hedged.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90506 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:32 pm to
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You'll get the same votes as you would from Mary, minus the pork.


False. You'll get different votes and still get the pork. What R doesn't like pork?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:17 pm to
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You don't think those guys like Bollinger aren't playing both sides of the fence.

Trust me, their bets are hedged.


Of course their bets are hedged.

Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:27 pm to
So thread is pointless?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21171 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
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You don't think those guys like Bollinger aren't playing both sides of the fence.

Trust me, their bets are hedged.


It's one thing to hedge their bet. However, Bollinger has gone to the point of cutting an ad for Landrieu.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21171 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Cassidy was not the state GOP (read Jindal)'s first choice. They wanted Boustany, but Boustany is looking forward to a senate run to replace Vitter (a state GOP pariah).


Cassidy and Teepell (who basically runs the LAGOP) had a huge falling out. From that time, rumors circled about Angelle possibly getting into the race.

Boustany would have been an interesting take, as his camp and Vitter's camp hate each other's guts as much as Vitter vs Jindal.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9604 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:13 pm to
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Scalise wanted to stay in his district since he had just won some serious clout in Congress.


What was Scalise's "clout" before becoming Majority Whip, which he didn't get until Cantor was defeated just a few months ago?

Chair of the Republican Study Committee? That's not so huge.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:19 pm to
Wasn't McCarthy going to run against Cantor anyway and they were all going to take a step up?

Or he planned to run against McCarthy regardless.

It was one of those two. He was planning to stick it out and rise in the ranking, either way. Cantor getting defeated just made it easier and expedited the process.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9604 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 3:25 pm to
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Wasn't McCarthy going to run against Cantor anyway and they were all going to take a step up? Or he planned to run against McCarthy regardless.


I would have been surprised to see McCarthy running against Cantor.

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Or he planned to run against McCarthy regardless.


Which I doubt he would have won.

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He was planning to stick it out and rise in the ranking, either way. Cantor getting defeated just made it easier and expedited the process


Yep, and Scalise is just forty-nine, and is very bright, and well respected on the Hill. (According to my highly placed sources).
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