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re: ESPN's Matich questioning whether LSU will score ANY points vs Ole Miss
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:03 am to lsupride87
LSU has a height advantage on their 5'9 corners
i'm not getting my hopes up that LSU will actually exploit it though
i'm not getting my hopes up that LSU will actually exploit it though
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:05 am to Alt26
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Assuming that the approach will be the same, this group is going to have to get big plays from the defense and ST if they want to win the game
No question. If the ST plays like they did against Florida, we will lose.
But here's the thing - that sentence you just typed, you could have typed it during basically any week during Miles' tenure. Because making big plays on defense and special teams is what this team is designed to do. Is how we win ball games, and it's how we have won ball games, consistently, for the last decade. People act like these big plays on defense and special teams are just lucky accidents that occasionally drop down from the heavens. That could not be farther from the truth.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:06 am to monsterballads
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in case you haven't noticed, the national media has ZERO respect for LSU's offense this year
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in case you haven't noticed, LSU fans have ZERO respect for LSU's offense this year
And both are warranted
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:07 am to monsterballads
quote:I want to see us pass more but exploiting their corners is not the term I would use. They are the strongest group in all the NCAA. The way to beat Ole Miss is passing over the middle to get their linebackers to back off the LOS and open up the run game
LSU has a height advantage on their 5'9 corners
i'm not getting my hopes up that LSU will actually exploit it though
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:08 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:07 am to Baloo
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LSU is averaging 35.6 pts/game, 26.8 v. the SEC, and has score 28 points or more and all but one game. So, no. It's not that big of a concern. Sure, it's possible in the sense that anything can happen on game day, but it's not keeping me awake at night.
Again, you've got to be careful with statistics. I don't have the time to analyze the entire season, but 27 points per game in the SEC is a bit skewed.
We scored 3 late TDs against MSU against a prevent D.
We laid an egg at Auburn.
We actually did pretty well on the ground at Florida, although our passing game was non-existent for 3.5 quarters.
We scored a lot on KY, but two TDs were because of/aided by great special teams returns, and another score was due to a short field on a squib kick recovery. I'm not discounting those scores, but just saying they weren't long sustained drives that's proof of a solid offense.
Also, I forget how many defensive TDs we've scored this year (I think a couple, but maybe those were against the cupcakes) but if they were in SEC games you'd also need to discount those.
Again, I'm just saying you have to consider all information, not just look at the raw stats.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:11 am to lsupride87
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I want to see us pass more but exploiting their corners is not the term I would use. They are the strongest group in all the NCAA.
Our passing game is bad. Their secondary is very good.
Our running game is good. Their front 7 (maybe even 6?) is light.
Given these factors, the average LSU fan thinks that, to win this ball game, we should pass more. I do not get it.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:12 am to Cold Cous Cous
we only scored 7 against auburn, why would this be any different
Ole miss has a better D than auburn...I think we'll only score 10-13 if we're lucky
Ole miss has a better D than auburn...I think we'll only score 10-13 if we're lucky
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:13 am to Cold Cous Cous
quote:Due to their corners being really good and our passing game being awful, they will put their corners on an island and load the shite out of the box. We wont be able to run right through a loaded Ole Miss box. I dont want to pass a ton, but I think we will need 20-25 attempts with around 10 of them in the actual middle of the field
Our passing game is bad. Their secondary is very good.
Our running game is good. Their front 7 (maybe even 6?) is light.
Given these factors, the average LSU fan thinks that, to win this ball game, we should pass more. I do not get it.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:13 am to lsupride87
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I want to see us pass more but exploiting their corners is not the term I would use. They are the strongest group in all the NCAA. The way to beat Ole Miss is passing over the middle to get their linebackers to back off the LOS and open up the run game
We haven't shown the ability to do this the entire season even against cupcake competition. I don't think it will start against Ole Miss' defense.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:15 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:Not that I disagree, just saying it will be a long day on offense if we dont IMHO
We haven't shown the ability to do this the entire season even against cupcake competition. I don't think it will start against Ole Miss' defense.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:19 am to lsupride87
While their D is indeed "legit," I think their run defense is a bit overrated. They are similar in size to FL and are not as good as Miss St.
What they really want is to rush the passer. If they get caught trying to speed upfield, we could very well have success running the ball.
Alabama had decent success running vs. them.
The worst thing we can do is come in and "air it out." It will play into their hand, allowing them to rush the passer and add to their already high int total.
What they really want is to rush the passer. If they get caught trying to speed upfield, we could very well have success running the ball.
Alabama had decent success running vs. them.
The worst thing we can do is come in and "air it out." It will play into their hand, allowing them to rush the passer and add to their already high int total.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:20 am to LSUfan20005
quote:If they come out with an upfield speed rush, then Freeze is no doubt, the dumbest human in the lower 48
What they really want is to rush the passer. If they get caught trying to speed upfield, we could very well have success running the ball.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:22 am to TigerFan244
In '09 we kicked a FG against that vaunted Florida D. Our O that year was garbage. Our O certainly doesn't look like a world beater this year but dang, ANY points?!
That said, 3-0 Lsu
Tigers win tigers win
That said, 3-0 Lsu
Tigers win tigers win
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:23 am to STEVED00
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Can you blame them?? I would bet we lead the SEC in 3 and outs.
We average 4.75 3-and-outs a game. The only other school I've checked is Alabama and they average 4.50 per game so, no, I highly doubt LSU leads the SEC in 3-and-outs.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:26 am to lsupride87
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This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:31 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:27 am to skullopener
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Before blaming ESPN for everything just ask yourself if LSU have done anything to earn it this year
Maybe because we're averaging 35 points per game and are 27th in the country in scoring, including 41 just last Saturday. Gosh, you'd think we were averaging 15 points per game.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:31 am to atltiger6487
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Again, I'm just saying you have to consider all information, not just look at the raw stats.
But don't look at the stats in a vacuum either. Do you think every other team drives 80 yards for all of their scores?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:34 am to CheerWhine
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Not unfounded after looking at our game against Auburn and with Ole Miss' defense, but I don't see it happening.
It is completely unfounded. LSU scores more points per game than Ole Miss. LSU will not get shut out in that environment on Saturday night. They need to be questioning whether Ole Miss will score some points in that environment, given the improvement of LSU's defense. It's amazing to me how the fact that LSU has played Auburn and Miss State just seems to get overlooked.....while Ole Miss has played only one team with a DECENT offense....probably not much more than LSU's offense....to be fair.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:36 am to trooploop
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Maybe because we're averaging 35 points per game and are 27th in the country in scoring, including 41 just last Saturday. Gosh, you'd think we were averaging 15 points per game.
yeah...it is complete bs......Ole Miss scores less, yet they are given a pass...they have played one good team. LSU's D doesn't get the credit it deserves, BECAUSE they have played two very, very good offenses....yet Ole Miss gets all the credit for their D despite not playing a really good offense yet.......After Saturday night, a lot of talking heads will be saying "we should have seen that coming"...watch.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:39 am to LSUfan20005
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defense is a bit overrated
I think more than a bit....they are pretty good....but they do give up right at 100 per game on the ground, and Alabama had about 160 or more against them. LSU is the same kind of attack as Bama......and other than that, they haven't faced a good running team. Looking very forward to this game.
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