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Does This Video Show A Hispanic Activist Openly Committing Vote Fraud?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:28 am
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A Republican party official in the largest county in Arizona says surveillance tape shows a progressive Hispanic activist blatantly and openly engaging in vote fraud.
The surveillance video below was recorded on Aug. 25 during this year’s primary election cycle at a central Maricopa County elections processing facility on the edge of downtown Phoenix.
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Between 12:54 and 1:04, LaFaro said, he observed a man wearing a “Citizens for a Better Arizona” T-shirt loudly drop a box containing hundreds of early-voting ballots on a table.
Citizens for a Better Arizona is a progressive group.
The man then began “stuffing the ballot box,” LaFaro said. “I watched in amazement.”
There’s no sound in the video, but the county Republican Committee chairman gave a play-by-play of the conversation that occurred between him and the unidentified man.
“What’s your problem?” the man asked, according to LaFaro.
“I don’t have a problem,” LaFaro said.
“Stop watching me,” the man reportedly demanded. “You’re annoying me.”
LaFaro kept watching him. At one point, he advised the man: “One of your ballots isn’t sealed.”
“It’s none of your business,” the man then reportedly said. “What’s your name?”
LaFaro told him his name and that he is the county Republican Committee chairman. He asked the man’s name.
“Go frick yourself!” the man allegedly replied. “I don’t have to tell you who I am.”
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:32 am to wickowick
quote:Seems like a little too obvious for someone doing something they aren't supposed to do.
he observed a man wearing a “Citizens for a Better Arizona” T-shirt
Are people allowed to drop off ballots through 3rd parties in Arizona?
And the guy is smiling as he walks up to the table. You can't see what he is putting the ballots into.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:34 am to mmcgrath
Well of course when you put ballots in a box it is stuffing them. Now is it fraud? Putting early ballots in a box is not fraud.
It is upon the Republican Party to prove fraud.
It is upon the Republican Party to prove fraud.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:38 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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It is upon the Republican Party to prove fraud
Could it be fraud? If it is actual fraud, is there any way for the Republicans to prove it?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:40 am to wickowick
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Could it be fraud? If it is actual fraud, is there any way for the Republicans to prove it?
Well they have to prove it in a court of law. Don't feel sorry for the Republicans on this. They have enough money to prove voter fraud and they haven't proven one case where voter fraud cost an election.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:42 am to Ralph_Wiggum
I'd need to know a whole lot more than just what I can see in that video.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:43 am to mmcgrath
And here's the answer.
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The county Republican Committee chairman concedes, however, that in August 2014 — the time when the surveillance video occurred — the surly man’s actions were likely legal
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:47 am to mmcgrath
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LaFaro stressed that the man’s actions likely don’t run afoul of Arizona electoral law. However, he argued, that’s only because Arizona law allows rampant vote fraud.
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In a nutshell, Arizona passed a law in early 2013 that, among much else, broadly strengthened rules against vote fraud. That law was later repealed by the legislature in 2014 as left-leaning Latino groups were mounting a repeal referendum. It was and remains a bit of a cat-and-mouse game of lawmaking. Had the popular referendum passed, future attempts to reign in electoral abuses would be more difficult to pass.
According to LaFaro, the actions by the man in the video would have been illegal from June 2013 to February 2014 — the period when the law was in place.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:48 am to mmcgrath
That was for the Rep Primary. For this to be voter fraud people would have had to request ballots but not fill them in, then he would have to get them, fill them in, then in plain view stuff the ballot in a Republican primary.
Doubtful.
Doubtful.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:50 am to Vegas Bengal
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LaFaro described a couple different ways in which Hispanic activists collect copious numbers of ballots — and also control exactly how they are voted.
One of these ways is ballot party. At a ballot party, he told TheDC, activists invite voters to bring their early-voter ballots to a central location. There’s food. There’s drink. Sometimes there’s even live entertainment. Voters fill out their individual ballots en masse for the activists’ chosen candidates. The activists collect the ballots and ensure they are submitted properly.
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A second, even seedier method involves activists pretending to represent the local government.
“Operatives are going around in the city of Glendale saying that they are county election officials and would be happy to collect their ballots,” LaFaro told TheDC.
He said he believes those ballots are often blank when the activists collect them. The activists then fill them out, and submit them in bulk.
An Oct. 17 report from Arizona ABC affiliate KNXV-TV substantiates LaFaro’s claims. In that report, the ABC station warned residents of Glendale, Ariz. to be on the lookout for people claiming to be official early ballot collectors.
Glendale city officials emphasized that election officials do not collect ballots from residents at their homes.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:53 am to wickowick
Dems will side with Charles Manson if it means they keep power......... 
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:57 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Well they have to prove it in a court of law. Don't feel sorry for the Republicans on this. They have enough money to prove voter fraud and they haven't proven one case where voter fraud cost an election.
Can you describe how that would happen?
What barriers are there to proving voter fraud?
What barriers are there to Republicans even filing a case alleging voter fraud?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:59 am to the808bass
It's their party, their election, their candidates. There were no democrats on the ballot. Ask the Republicans.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:02 am to wickowick
quote:This happens in every election that allows absentee ballots. Both parties do it.
One of these ways is ballot party.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:09 am to Vegas Bengal
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It's their party, their election, their candidates. There were no democrats on the ballot. Ask the Republicans.
How is it you can't acknowledge that it very well could be fraud - doesn't matter if a f'ing Dem was on it or not. In your mind, the two party system equates to:
Repubs: FRAUD
Dems: "MISCOMMUNICATION"
Politics aren't just about your party remember.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:15 pm to wickowick
The best way to steal from a retail store is walk out like you paid for it.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:18 pm to wickowick
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Citizens for A Better Arizona
Mexico can have them back. Don't care.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:29 pm to idlewatcher
quote:By your definition ANYTHING can be fraud. There isn't a single inkling of evidence that the video shows voter fraud.
How is it you can't acknowledge that it very well could be fraud
Apparently the Republican Chairman in that state thinks it is fraud because the guy is hispanic and wearing the t-shirt of a group he doesn't like... plus he told the chair to GFY.
In my opinion, the Republican Chair may be guilty of voter intimidation. If people are allowed to drop off ballots then it is probably illegal for him to go off and question them and post a video online as if they were a criminal.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:30 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Here's the problem with you dumb azz democrats, you don't give a damn if the elections are ethical or not as long as your positions are advanced.
The reason is simple, you have zero ethics and zero moral fiber, you are pro murdering of 55 million babies and you are for homosexuals adopting babies.
SCUM WILL BE SCUM.
The reason is simple, you have zero ethics and zero moral fiber, you are pro murdering of 55 million babies and you are for homosexuals adopting babies.
SCUM WILL BE SCUM.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:40 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:Is it? Or should this be a non-partisan effort?
It is upon the Republican Party to prove fraud.
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