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re: Report: Autopsy analysis shows Michael Brown may have gone for Wilson’s gun
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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actually this is the perfect time to have a guy like Obama as President. he could make major inroads to stopping riots
The defeatist feedback loop of modern black culture prevents outside inputs of rationality. If a viewpoint is "white," the proponent is rejected no matter their pdevious credentials. And the people who are respected enough to make a difference won't go against the prevailing cultural norm of urban "blackness." Too much to lose. Cornel West isn't going to come out and say, "Well, it looks like we were a little hasty here. This shooting actually looks legitimate."
To be fair, this isn't just a "black thing." It's a tribal thing. We all do this. Mississippi State fans did it a few weeks ago with Dillon whatever his name is. Even if you know your opponents are right, you can't admit it. Protect the tribe.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:37 am to RCDfan1950
It will be interesting to see the reaction to this from people like Al Sharpton and other commentators/news people (Don Lemon, I'm looking at you) who jumped on the bandwagon way too early.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:38 am to a want
Maybe those outside agitators and union thugs will riot because no one takes them seriously anymore.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:40 am to baybeefeetz
Did people REALLY believe Ferguson was a situation where a policeman shot a black man in cold blood? Seems to me that that false scenario started falling apart pretty quickly. The autopsy changed the dynamic pretty quickly.
But, maybe my other point was misunderstood. In a country of 330 million people, it's inevitable that we are going to have a white person kill a black person in a situation where there is no doubt that the black person is an innocent victim.
There seems to be a zero tolerance for unprovoked white-on-black violence. So, what happens when the race-baiters really do have the facts on their side....IN ONE SITUATION IN A COUNTRY OF 330 MILLION PEOPLE.
It's inevitable that these people, sooner or later, are going to get a case where the facts are on their side.
But, maybe my other point was misunderstood. In a country of 330 million people, it's inevitable that we are going to have a white person kill a black person in a situation where there is no doubt that the black person is an innocent victim.
There seems to be a zero tolerance for unprovoked white-on-black violence. So, what happens when the race-baiters really do have the facts on their side....IN ONE SITUATION IN A COUNTRY OF 330 MILLION PEOPLE.
It's inevitable that these people, sooner or later, are going to get a case where the facts are on their side.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:43 am to KCT
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But, maybe my other point was misunderstood. In a country of 330 million people, it's inevitable that we are going to have a white person kill a black person in a situation where there is no doubt that the black person is an innocent victim.
The Crawford guy who got shot in the WalMart in Ohio seems a pretty reasonable case of an innocent victim. For the life of me, I can't understand why the race baiters are so shitty at picking their battles.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:46 am to a want
I don't see anything is this story that we didn't already know. Even Brown's friend Dorian Johnson said that something happened in the car, but the discrepency is over what happened in the car. When we can replace the words "may have been reaching" with "definitely was reaching", then we'll have something to go on.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:47 am to mmcgrath
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I am going to have to wait until all of the evidence is presented together. Witness statements and everything.
That's my position too, but some folks on both sides refuse to let the facts and evidence get in the way of their narrative.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:49 am to the808bass
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We all do this. Mississippi State fans did it a few weeks ago with Dillon whatever his name is. Even if you know your opponents are right, you can't admit it. Protect the tribe.
Good point.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:49 am to a want
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He has a win/win right in front of his face
I wonder if they've even discussed it.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:50 am to KCT
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There seems to be a zero tolerance for unprovoked white-on-black violence.
White-on-black violence is statistically zero in the United States. When you consider how heavily any such incident is covered, it is mind boggling.
I guess it is making up for the time when it wasn't even considered crime, but I can't see that as justification. It takes attention from real problems that might have a real solution.
And it is purely for political posturing.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:50 am to the808bass
That cop got fired and charged.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:52 am to trackfan
The facts ARE coming out, trackfan.
The problem is, it isn't what you wanted to hear.
The problem is, it isn't what you wanted to hear.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:56 am to trackfan
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That's my position too, but some folks on both sides refuse to let the facts and evidence get in the way of their narrative.
Well - I started from the bare fact:
Officer shoots unarmed subject to death.
Now, not rushing to judgment, that's all we knew. When that was all we knew, I was in the, "Lucy, you got some splainin' to do" camp.
Then the story unfolded in the context of the riots. Within a day or so, I knew this was going to be a legal $hitstorm and that the mob would never rationally evaluate the evidence.
Just as they didn't in Trayvon/Zimmerman...
Now - Wilson still has to get past the fact that there was some disengagement after the initial struggle in the car, but as his story checks out and the other eyewitness accounts do not - the case against him looks to be done.
The riots will have to be managed - that's just a fact. When the GJ returns a 'no true bill' - heck, it could spread to St. Louis proper.
And it is sadly unavoidable. The die is cast.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:59 am to baybeefeetz
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That cop got fired and charged.
No, he wasn't fired and no, he wasn't charged.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:01 am to KCT
quote:how many times a day do you type and say this? You're a one trick pony.
race-baiters
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:04 am to baybeefeetz
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That cop got fired and charged.
This is what I ask anyone who thinks the cop over-reacted.
A 300 pound man (who just attacked you in your car - and who just strong-arm robbed a convenience store) rushes you after you've said "stop". What are you going to do?
frick you. I'm firing until the clip is empty. And I'd do the same even if I wasn't initially attacked in the car. If you charge a police officer....that's the end of the conversation IMO.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:06 am to Vegas Bengal
VB, how sad that you are incapable of discussing context and substance.
If you dont think people like Holder, Sharpton, Don Lemon, etc have race-baited the Ferguson, MO situation, then you are a fool.
You "debate" like you have the IQ of a 5 year-old.
If you dont think people like Holder, Sharpton, Don Lemon, etc have race-baited the Ferguson, MO situation, then you are a fool.
You "debate" like you have the IQ of a 5 year-old.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:06 am to a want
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Report: Autopsy analysis shows Michael Brown may have gone for Wilson’s gun
Sounds like Wilson Stood His Ground!
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:09 am to a want
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This is what I ask anyone who thinks the cop over-reacted.
A 300 pound man (who just attacked you in your car - and who just strong-arm robbed a convenience store) rushes you after you've said "stop". What are you going to do?
frick you. I'm firing until the clip is empty. And I'd do the same even if I wasn't initially attacked in the car. If you charge a police officer....that's the end of the conversation IMO.
I have agreed with a want and mmcgrath in the last 2 days. Ole Miss and Miss St are 1 and 2, I think the end is near fellas.
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