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George Lucas Rips Hollywood Studios: They've ‘Always Been the Problem’
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:05 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:05 am
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“Star Wars” writer and director does not think corporations are capable of nurturing talent and thinks they are the biggest problem in the movie business today.
“You're selling creativity. Raw creativity from talented people. Now, the problem has always been the studios,” Lucas told CBS anchor Charlie Rose during an interview at Chicago Ideas Week. ”Although the beginning of the studios, the entrepreneurs who ran the studios were sort of creative guys. They would just take books and turn them into movies and do things like that. Suddenly all these corporations were coming in. They didn't know anything about the movie business.”
Lucas, a University of Southern California graduate, explained that there was a time in the beginning of his career when executives trusted creatives emerging from film schools. But that time was short lived.
“The studios went back to saying, Well we don't trust you people and we think we know how to make movies,'” Lucas said. “The studios change everything all the time. And, unfortunately, they don't have any imagination and they don't have any talent.”
The filmmaker best known for introducing the world to The Force added that his brand of science fiction, now a massive franchise owned by Disney, would never be made today. He credited one studio executive at 20th Century Fox for trusting his vision.
“He believed in me because he loved ‘American Graffiti.’ He said, ‘You're a talented guy. I'll do whatever you want to do.’ But you'd never hear that today,” Lucas said. “He said, ‘You know, I don't understand what this thing is about big dogs flying spaceships around. It doesn't make any sense to me. Are you sure this is going to work?’ And I said, ‘Well, I know it's different but, you know, I believe in it.'”
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:04 am to Sentrius
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we don't trust you people and we think we know how to make movies
4/10 George
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:48 am to Sentrius
quote:yea ok
his brand of science fiction, now a massive franchise owned by Disney, would never be made today.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:53 pm to Pilot Tiger
Does Lucas come off as hypocrital with this stance? Especially in light of the Star Wars prequels?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:55 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:00 pm to Sentrius
why would he come off as a hypocrite with the prequels?
as disappointing as they were (and they are nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be) they were his vision alone and were essentially mega budget indie flicks.
as disappointing as they were (and they are nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be) they were his vision alone and were essentially mega budget indie flicks.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:02 pm to Sentrius
Ironic in so many ways
he's so bitter that everyone hated the prequels, the 4th Indiana jones and that shitty redtails movie
his ideas suck, they've always sucked without gary Kurtz, and George really has a tough time admitting that even though he made a killing on all of his shitty movies
he's so bitter that everyone hated the prequels, the 4th Indiana jones and that shitty redtails movie
his ideas suck, they've always sucked without gary Kurtz, and George really has a tough time admitting that even though he made a killing on all of his shitty movies
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:06 pm to Dr RC
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why would he come off as a hypocrite with the prequels
because like a big studio, he had other concerns besides the quality of the movie...and I'm not talking about keeping it on or under budget.
On top of that, they're among the most soulless movies ever made in a variety of different ways. George hates "the man" but is too far removed from his sanity to realize he is "the man"
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they were his vision alone
off topic, but that's why they sucked balls. it's pretty clear from interviews with the cast and crew and made evident by all of his own little documentaries that Gary Kurtz was just as responsible for the success of star wars. He served as a co director for all intents and purposes, a prop man, producer and clearly helped shape and focus lucas' bad ideas into good ones.
Can't have Star Wars or Empire without Lucas, but not without Kurtz either.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:08 pm to Sentrius
I believe it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:09 pm to Dr RC
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and they are nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be
Yes, they were.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:11 pm to Sentrius
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corporations are capable of nurturing talent
only George lucas could have the entire first cast basically scream to the world that he doesn't know how to work with talent, then direct 3 movies that feature awful performances from legit actors, and then accuse the studios of not being able to nurture talent
thanks georgePosted on 10/21/14 at 4:13 pm to Dr RC
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and they are nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be
what?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:13 pm to DelU249
I dunno, I actually know quite a few (almost all younger) people that love the prequels and are bored out of their minds by the originals.
It always shocks the hell out of me but they exist.
Regardless, he was talking about how studios DGAF about the movie as an art form. While we both probably agree GL's art REALLY needed a second voice (b/c I honestly think there is some great stuff hidden under the crap in the prequels and even Indy4) he still got to make HIS film HIS way w/o some creep bean counter directing him to do this, that, and the other.
I don't see him making SW's on his own dime (techically Lucasfilm I know) as being any different than Kevin Smith making Clerks on his own.
They both made the films they wanted to make with the resources they had and didn't have to take shite from anyone over it.
PS - No, they really are not as bad as people want to make them out to be. I'm sorry they just aren't. 20+ years of childhood memories and giddy anticipation simply built up the "greatness" of the older ones to the point that Lucas was probably never going to satisfy most people regardless of what he did.
It always shocks the hell out of me but they exist.
Regardless, he was talking about how studios DGAF about the movie as an art form. While we both probably agree GL's art REALLY needed a second voice (b/c I honestly think there is some great stuff hidden under the crap in the prequels and even Indy4) he still got to make HIS film HIS way w/o some creep bean counter directing him to do this, that, and the other.
I don't see him making SW's on his own dime (techically Lucasfilm I know) as being any different than Kevin Smith making Clerks on his own.
They both made the films they wanted to make with the resources they had and didn't have to take shite from anyone over it.
PS - No, they really are not as bad as people want to make them out to be. I'm sorry they just aren't. 20+ years of childhood memories and giddy anticipation simply built up the "greatness" of the older ones to the point that Lucas was probably never going to satisfy most people regardless of what he did.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:22 pm to Dr RC
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DGAF about the movie as an art form
people like George lucas
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/c I honestly think there is some great stuff hidden under the crap in the prequels
they are every bit as horrible as people say and even worse...but I agree with this, especially when it comes to the phantom menace. No Kurtz, no care
quote:but his way was not aimed at making the best movie he could make...we could argue this with casting all day...and the fricking toys.
still got to make HIS film HIS way
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/o some creep bean counter directing him to do this
I have so much respect for Lucas as a businessman and for the risk he took financing Empire (that is walt Disney fricking guts), but sticking with empire...it is the greatest film in the whole series and one of the best ever, and his only role in that movie was BEANCOUNTER (don't blame him either, needs to be done) he was the beancounter for all of his movies save for the first.
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I'm sorry they just aren't. 20+ years of childhood memories and giddy anticipation simply built up the "greatness" of the older ones to the point that Lucas was probably never going to satisfy most people
I disagree, and once a year I try and convince myself I like the phantom menace, but they're awful.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:22 pm to DelU249
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his ideas suck, they've always sucked without gary Kurtz
Yeah, no. I'm sure he believes that, but reality intervenes. He's done well feeding off of creative minds like Lucas and Henson, but he hasn't produced anything worth a shite in 30 years.
Lucas is just past his creative prime, and has been for decades. Personally, I think living in wine country softened his mind and destroyed the edge of his creativity, but for a well-measurable period of time, he was the at the forefront of cinematic art.
Shitty movies aside, he's right about the studios. Most of what we see today is formulaic, because the studios are filled with businessmen, not artists. Thinking inside the box is good for popcorn movie profit in the short term, but eventually, all of the life is going to be squeezed out of the formulas.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:25 pm to UL-SabanRival
I'm not saying Kurtz didn't need lucas either...too bad they couldn't stay together for jedi...and think about it...the prequels
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:26 pm to UL-SabanRival
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he's right about the studios
that's what makes this so funny...he is right, but he is (or was) "the studio"
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:27 pm to UL-SabanRival
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, I think living in wine country softened his mind and destroyed the edge of his creativity
yeah, watch the making of star wars...you'll recognize some prequel quality stuff in there, and then they talk about how they'd work together to come to a creative consensus
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:28 pm to Sentrius
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George Lucas
Has any director's rep ever taken as much of dive from such heights as his. After American Grafitti, the fist two Star Wars and the early India Jones stuff (albeit those were with Speilberg) he was pretty much idolized
Return of the Jedi had some detractors and then it was pretty much downhill as far as rep among his original fans.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:29 pm to DelU249
Well then we just have to agree to disagree b/c I think he truly thought he was creating a great film to the best of his abilities.
and dude, you have to at least give that the light saber battles were pretty fun yes?
wouldn't every self funded filmmaker technically "be the studio" under that definition?
and dude, you have to at least give that the light saber battles were pretty fun yes?
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that's what makes this so funny...he is right, but he is (or was) "the studio"
wouldn't every self funded filmmaker technically "be the studio" under that definition?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 4:30 pm
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