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re: Who has been the worst President in your lifetime.

Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:06 am to
Its pretty hard to judge a president that is sitting, as there are still things they can frick up.

But Iraq was probably the worst FP disaster since the bay of pigs, but maybe even worse than that. We are going to be there for another 10 years in some way shape or form cleaning up shite.

It pushes bush to the top.

If iraq was not in play, definitely obama.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10822 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:06 am to
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He can't spend a dime without the Rep House.

The poster makes a valid point and simultaneously discovers why the deficit has fallen ever year since dims lost the house
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:15 am to
Born in 1988. Barry Obama by a very wide margin.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:38 am to
Kennedy cut taxes, just like Regan did later, and our economy boomed, look it up on youtube.

Kennedy wasn't this new liberal screwball / anti business mind set which the liberals have become.

Anyone who says Obama isn't the worst president is just lying and ashamed of beinb seen as the idiot they are.
Posted by The Cool No 9
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Member since Jan 2014
9958 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:47 am to
Everybody here is alive today right?

I'd say the current one
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:50 am to
My choices being:
George H. W. Bush (raised taxes after saying no taxes, Gulf War)
William S. Clinton (Bosnia, let Bin Laden go, failed healthcare reform, balanced budget, Welfare reform, economic expansion, started the housing crisis)
George W. Bush (9/11, Patriot Act, War in Iraq, War in Afghanistan, Katrina, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, TARP, Auto-Bailouts, Stimulus 1)
Barack H. Obama (Fast and Furious, more bailouts, stimulus 2, Cash for Clunkers, IRS scandal, VA scandal, AP scandal, NSA scandal, Moratorium, B.P. oil spill, Ebola, Affordable Care Act, ect.)

Wow...what a shite show to choose from.

Looks like the rankings would be from best to worst:
Clinton (did good and bad)
Bush 1 (did neither good nor bad)
Bush 2 (did mostly bad)
Obama (did damn near all bad)
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:08 am to
I think you're a moron for even asking the question.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38882 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:21 am to
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You have to wonder if Obama shut the door on the possibility of another black president for a long, long time.


I've seen this sentiment expressed here before and it makes me uncomfortable. The next black president will have very little or nothing to do with Obama and his failures. I have to believe the majority of the public will recognize this.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:22 am to
As you resort to personal attacks. Color me shocked.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:24 am to
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The next black president will have very little or nothing to do with Obama and his failures. I have to believe the majority of the public will recognize this.

True. There are a number of black men, don't have any black women in mind at the moment, I would vote for in a heartbeat. None resemble obama in the slightest and none would carry his scent of failure.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:26 am to
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Bush 2 (did mostly bad)


besides helping africa and extending DST for a few weeks what good did bush do?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69906 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:26 am to
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There are a number of black men, don't have any black women in mind at the moment, I would vote for in a heartbeat. None resemble obama in the slightest



You mean they're not lying big eared motherfrickers?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:27 am to
quote:

You mean they're not lying big eared motherfrickers?

Precisely
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:30 am to
From Worst to Best:

1. Obama
2. GWB




3. GHWB



4. Clinton
5. Reagan
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:37 am to
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The poster makes a valid point and simultaneously discovers why the deficit has fallen ever year since dims lost the house


Might have something to do with increased revenue after the crash of '08 and the Budget Sequester Deal of 2011 which both sides took credit for when it passed and both sides blamed the other in 2012.





See the little red columns show revenue reductions after the Bush tax cuts then the huge drop off after the crash of 88? Then you see the blue line increase with the stimulus package which actually wasn't much more as a percentage of the GDP then the increase under Reagan. Then you see increased revenue under Obama when the economy recovered and less spending due tot he budget sequester deal of 2011.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:40 am to
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See the little red columns show revenue reductions after the Bush tax cuts


Hmm, did anything else happen in the time frame?
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:41 am to
Nothing major, really.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:46 am to
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Might have something to do with increased revenue after the crash of '08 and the Budget Sequester Deal of 2011 which both sides took credit for when it passed and both sides blamed the other in 2012.


Actually, its because between 2009-2012 we ran the highest annual deficits in U.S. history. Our 2013 and 2014 are still in the Top 10 for highest annual deficits since WWII. 2009-2012 was just so egregious that our out-of-control current deficit looks great in comparison.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36417 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:48 am to
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George H. W. Bush (raised taxes after saying no taxes, Gulf War)


wtf ? You realize the Gulf War is a text book example of how to run a military campaign and was pretty widely supported? Would you rather Iraq have invaded and annexed one of our major allies in the region?

Or are you just naming the major events associated with each president, in which case I misunderstood?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:49 am to
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wtf ? You realize the Gulf War is a text book example of how to run a military campaign and was pretty widely supported? Would you rather Iraq have invaded and annexed one of our major allies in the region?
No. He doesn't.

Gulf War was legit, it just should have been the end of our involvement there, barring another invasion or open conflict like the one we stopped.
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