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re: What is the MSB's opinion on Notre Dame's team and program?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:10 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:10 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I respect Notre Dame and Stanford. While football players certainly don't have the same admissions requirements as other students, I don't think they compromise their academic standards as much as more successful football schools.
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:21 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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What is the MSB's opinion on Notre Dame's team and program?
Always underachieving.... Doesn't get the talent it used to. They ARE AMERICAS team though and will always be watched.... IF they make the playoff this year and have to face and top teir SEC team the same thing will happen like it did against Bama two years ago.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:24 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I have no clue about their talent, but they seem to be a respectful team coached by a good coach. Completly opposite of FSU.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:27 pm to dukke v
They looked strong in the trenches, that's why they got blown out vs Bama.
YOU'RE TALKING OUT OF YOUR arse, OLD MAN, they still being in incredible talent, Brian Kelly is a great hire he'S perfect fit IMO
YOU'RE TALKING OUT OF YOUR arse, OLD MAN, they still being in incredible talent, Brian Kelly is a great hire he'S perfect fit IMO
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:29 pm to 4LSU2
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I also don't see anyone left on LSU's schedule beating them this season.
Oh...
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:35 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
Brian Kelly has done a great job digging them out of the abyss that Ty Willingham and Charlie Weis left. Does anything more need to be said? What he has done there has been nothing short of incredible. And, to be fair, I didn't think he'd work out there. I was wrong about him.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:45 pm to KosmoCramer
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They looked strong in the trenches, that's why they got blown out vs Bama.
WUT???????????
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, they still being in incredible talent
Not good enough to beat a mediocre North Carolina by much AT HOME.....
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:48 pm to dukke v
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Not good enough to beat a mediocre North Carolina by much AT HOME.....
Kind of like Mississippi State squeaking by UAB? Even teams with great talent struggle against inferior opponents.
Alabama gave up over 400 yards to Georgia Southern and later won the BCS Title that season.
At least UNC belongs to a major conference.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:03 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
If you watch the program week in and week out, year after year, ND has been trending up for awhile since BK took over. Last year was a bit of a step back as far as results go, but not really how the "program" was going.
I think people also underrate the 2012 team, just because of the finish. That was a very, very good team. You don't go undefeated in the regular season, beat a Big 12 Champion on the road by three scores and beat the Pac 12 Champion and Rose Bowl winner unless you're a very, very good team. They were not elite and not ready for the ultimate big stage (i.e. the National Championship) but they were not some scrub team that would lose four games in the SEC or Pac 12. Yeah, ND got killed by Bama. You know who else lost a game by 28 that season? Georgia, the team that was "less than 10 yards from destroying Notre Dame." You know who else was destroyed by Alabama in the NCG? LSU the year before. I just don't think that game means much for the season as a whole, just that ND wasn't quite ready for the ultimate stage.
I think people also underrate the 2012 team, just because of the finish. That was a very, very good team. You don't go undefeated in the regular season, beat a Big 12 Champion on the road by three scores and beat the Pac 12 Champion and Rose Bowl winner unless you're a very, very good team. They were not elite and not ready for the ultimate big stage (i.e. the National Championship) but they were not some scrub team that would lose four games in the SEC or Pac 12. Yeah, ND got killed by Bama. You know who else lost a game by 28 that season? Georgia, the team that was "less than 10 yards from destroying Notre Dame." You know who else was destroyed by Alabama in the NCG? LSU the year before. I just don't think that game means much for the season as a whole, just that ND wasn't quite ready for the ultimate stage.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:04 pm to SabiDojo
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Kind of like Mississippi State squeaking by UAB? Even teams with great talent struggle against inferior opponents. Alabama gave up over 400 yards to Georgia Southern and later won the BCS Title that season. At least UNC belongs to a major conference.
ND is having a great season and should have won the other night. But they still don't have the same kind of players that could compete in the SEC on a weekly basis...
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:16 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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What is the MSB's opinion on Notre Dame's team and program?
B. Kelly is a damn good coach.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:17 pm to dukke v
That may be one of the dumbest things you have typed. Notre Dame gets as good of players if not better than SEC.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:18 pm to bayoujd
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Brian Kelly has done a great job digging them out of the abyss that Ty Willingham and Charlie Weis left. Does anything more need to be said? What he has done there has been nothing short of incredible. And, to be fair, I didn't think he'd work out there. I was wrong about him.
He had a really good track record before hand, but yeah, certainly thought it'd take him a bit before getting to a BCSNCG. He's done a very nice job
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:47 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I love B Kelly. Not that he was going anywhere else, but I seem to remember some schools weren't jumping at him due to whispers about drinking issues. Anyway, I couldn't figure out those first few years at ND why he didn't have high octane offenses like at Cinci. It must have just been the QB. I also thought they might fall off a bit with Diaco leaving, but Van Gorder is doing a nice job. I know this SEC dominated board thinks ND would get whumped in the playoff, but I think they are ready for it now. Kelly seems like a psycho win at all cost guy sometimes and you can say guys are getting in trouble under him, but at least ND drops the hammer and benches kids. More than you can say for a lot of other programs.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:59 pm to sms151t
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Notre Dame gets as good of players if not better than SEC.
So why do they struggle against teams they shouldn't??? They are WAY inconsistent. They have been this way since the late 80's...........
As far as getting better players as the SEC..... There is no way this is true,,,,, This ain't the 70's dumbfrick.................
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:59 pm to 4LSU2
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I don't see them beating LSU. I also don't see anyone left on LSU's schedule beating them this season.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:01 pm to dukke v
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So why do they struggle against teams they shouldn't??? They are WAY inconsistent. They have been this way since the late 80's...........
LSU does this
Alabama almost lost to Arkansas
lots of teams struggle with teams when they just go through the motions. don't let facts get in the way of the weekly ND bashing.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:02 pm to dukke v
Nix Shembo Roninson Golston etc were all wanted by SEC schools.
Do not act like they weren't.
Do not act like they weren't.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:04 pm to TH03
If Miles ever leaves, I want Kelly. A drinker coach in Baton Rouge? Match made in Heaven.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:06 pm to TH03
I don't understand why PJ thinks every national title contender has to win every game by 5 touchdowns. Not every past champion won every single football game.
PJ thinks a team sucks if it can't beat the 1999 Seminoles.
PJ thinks a team sucks if it can't beat the 1999 Seminoles.
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