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re: Why LSU Needs to Run on First Down Against Ole Miss
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:06 pm to Cold Cous Cous
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:06 pm to Cold Cous Cous
We need to stop pretending like we have a QB. Just line up in the Wildcat with a RB, and run it every single down. I'm sure any of our RBs can throw the ball 40 yards down the sideline to Dural.
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:08 pm to BayouBengals03
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fricked it up two possessions in a row against Auburn.v
handing the ball off can be taught in one practice. accuracy and arm talent really cannot be taught, you either have it or you don't. sure,you can refine it a little. AJ's accuracy rivals jefferson. it just is what it is.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:08 pm to AlaTiger
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I don't think that the coaches have neglected the passing game. I think that our QBs can't execute it.
Such a lame excuse. You mean to tell me that every single qb that LSU has signed since 2008, save for the JUCO savior that got kicked off of another team, is incapable of completing a forward pass?
It's the system, and it chokes the qbs. If it ain't the system, then Les Miles is the worst high school qb evaluator in America.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:10 pm to Choupique19
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then Les Miles is the worst high school qb evaluator in America.
:kige:
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:11 pm to Choupique19
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We've had 3 weeks of bowl preparation, one bowl game, an entire spring practice/game period, summer drills, fall camp, and now 8 weeks of a college football season to develop a serviceable passing game. Shame on the coaches for neglecting it.
Go cry somewhere else, pussy.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:12 pm to Cold Cous Cous
At some point this year, LSU will have to put Harris in and let him sling the ball around, my guess it will be against OM or Bama or both. Maybe it will click for him maybe not. Sadly when he goes in LSU will probably be in a bad situation.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:12 pm to Springlake Tiger
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handing the ball off can be taught in one practice.
Apparently not to Harris.
I think Jennings starting the games is the right call at this point. I think he understands the calls better and gets us into the right runs and formations.
Harris is certainly more talented with more upside, but I don't know if I trust him in a big game like this. Jennings really doesn't make many mistakes. He'll take a sack before he forces a throw. Against Ole Miss, that isn't the worst thing in the world.
Let Jennings start. If he sucks it up, then bring in Harris. When Jennings has started, we've been in every game at some point in the second half, even if it wasn't his own doing.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:13 pm to PurpleAndGold86
So you're happy that we ranked 120th in the nation in passing...again. Back to 2009 we go.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:13 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Go cry somewhere else, pussy.
So YOU can't handle the truth???? Looks like it....
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:14 pm to hashtag
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We need to stop pretending like we have a QB. Just line up in the Wildcat with a RB, and run it every single down. I'm sure any of our RBs can throw the ball 40 yards down the sideline to Dural.
I tend to agree. Look, we're a running team. We were under Saban, we are under Les and the next guy who comes in will likely have the same approach. Thats LSU football. I'm not trying to fight it. But if thats what we're going to be, I agree that we have to do something more innovative. People say the spread was invented by coaches who knew their team lacked the talent to lign up and play smashmouth football. I'd imgagine that the Wildcat came about b/c coaches new they didn't have a legitmate passing threat at QB. It was a simple innovation. Hell every high school team in America has been doing it for years in some form or fashion. Your best athlete plays QB, period.
If we are who we are than lets accept it and find the best possible way of doing it. I don't care if we run it every single down. But I'd love to see us take the time to try and keep the other team guessing as to how we're going to accomplish it.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:15 pm to lsuhunt555
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Im sure well come out in a double tight I formation,
Why do people think this is all we run? The majority come out of the pro set. 2wr 1te 1fb 1rb. We send Quinn in motion. This is exactly the offense cam runs.
Against UK we even ran two tes 2 wrs and 1 rb. People just need to stop posting BS.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:18 pm to Choupique19
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Such a lame excuse.
The f@ck it is.
The two QB's have 9 games between the TWO of them.
If this were a senior and a junior QB I would agree with you.
They are wet behind the ears sorry but its true.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:19 pm to dgnx6
Jennings - 4 turnovers in the 1st quarter vs NMST, doesn't start next week.
Harris - Poor completion percentage vs Top 10 team, never sees field again.
Les Logic.
Harris - Poor completion percentage vs Top 10 team, never sees field again.
Les Logic.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:20 pm to BayouBengals03
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I think Jennings starting the games is the right call at this point. I think he understands the calls better and gets us into the right runs and formations.
Harris is certainly more talented with more upside, but I don't know if I trust him in a big game like this. Jennings really doesn't make many mistakes. He'll take a sack before he forces a throw. Against Ole Miss, that isn't the worst thing in the world.
Let Jennings start. If he sucks it up, then bring in Harris. When Jennings has started, we've been in every game at some point in the second half, even if it wasn't his own doing.
I don't disagree. I just wish we would do a Tommy Hodson/Mickey Guidry type split. I hate to bring in Harris once the outcome is already decided. Otherwise, he will be no better off for next year and we will be in the same exact QB situation next year, a shitty situation.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:20 pm to goatmilker
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The f@ck it is.
The two QB's have 9 games between the TWO of them.
If this were a senior and a junior QB I would agree with you.
They are wet behind the ears sorry but its true.
So what happen to all the qbs we had on campus in the last two years that should be juniors or seniors on this team? Why couldn't we develop a decent qb to hand the ball off 50 times a game, and complete 14 out of 21 passes? If you tell me that none of them were any good, how did they get a scholarship offer?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:23 pm to Choupique19
I have no idea.
But has nothing to do with the fact we have two young QB's that we hope will develop.
If neither of these two QB's develop over the next few years then I will agree we have a problem making QB's better.
But has nothing to do with the fact we have two young QB's that we hope will develop.
If neither of these two QB's develop over the next few years then I will agree we have a problem making QB's better.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:24 pm to Choupique19
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So what happen to all the qbs we had on campus in the last two years that should be juniors or seniors on this team? Why couldn't we develop a decent qb to hand the ball off 50 times a game, and complete 14 out of 21 passes? If you tell me that none of them were any good, how did they get a scholarship offer?
It's one legitimate criticism of les's program that the sunshine pumpers cannot account for. It's a systemic problem and is not new. I understand a perfect storm of bad luck, etc. it happened in 2008. However, it continues to plague LSU.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:26 pm to AlaTiger
I actually don't mind running as long as we spread it out and don't try to toss-dive them to death.
With the OM pass rush, I foresee AJ getting planted a bunch if we try to air it out.
I swear I've never seen a QB who is "athletic" get sacked so many times.
With the OM pass rush, I foresee AJ getting planted a bunch if we try to air it out.
I swear I've never seen a QB who is "athletic" get sacked so many times.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:28 pm to goatmilker
Bolden - started as a true freshman from game 1 at Penn St
Rettig - never saw him play
Rivers - saw him come in for an injured Mett and complete a slant pass
Why couldn't this coaching staff develop just one of these guys to be able to hand the ball off as much as Jennings? There is no way that Jennings should have been backup qb last year as a true freshman. If Jennings is that much better than these guys, then our recruiting is flat out pathetic.
Rettig - never saw him play
Rivers - saw him come in for an injured Mett and complete a slant pass
Why couldn't this coaching staff develop just one of these guys to be able to hand the ball off as much as Jennings? There is no way that Jennings should have been backup qb last year as a true freshman. If Jennings is that much better than these guys, then our recruiting is flat out pathetic.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:29 pm to AlaTiger
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We have a better chance of picking up 4-5 yards on first down if we make our blocks than we have of completing a pass against a 9 man front
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There is a higher chance of an incomplete pass on first down than there is of getting no yardage running the ball.
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A no gain on first is the same as an incompletion, but the chances of a gain are higher than the chances of completing the pass.
You are trying to explain it...
Look. We are going to run the ball more than we throw it. And, we are going to do it because we are much better at running it than we are at throwing it.
BUT, common sense says that you have to keep a defense honest, or your strengths become less of a strength as defenses key on them. You have to be willing to throw it on first down (and be successful) so that you aren't facing 8 man fronts on 1st and 10.
One thing we can do is throw it over the top. We need to be willing to take those chances at any given point. No team is going to stop crowding the box with our passing game the way it is. But, if we burn them once or twice it might make them be more selective in when they do it...and that should be enough to get the running game going.
Predictability is bad.
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