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re: 9 Avengers Rumors Including One Dealing with Ryan Gosling

Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:25 pm to
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Seriously? Supergirl, Catwoman, Batgirl, Storm, Rogue, Elektra, Catwoman again, Invisible Woman... It's not like Marvel blazed a trail by including two or three women in their ten movies.


Did I say they blazed a trail? It seems we're talking this universe, like now.But yeah, I agree with you, you can't hold this lame PC argument against either one. BnG seems to be the only one doing that.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:30 pm to
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One positive thing that I don't think has been mentioned in any of the various DC film threads - Jason Momoa is going to be bad-arse as Aqua Man. He may be the one actor I am most-looking forward to seeing in a role. Who doesn't want to see Khal Frickin' Drogo?!


While KHal Drogo gives me hope, the Conan remake makes me skeptical.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:34 pm to
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You don't like one single casting choice?


I think Ben Affleck is ok, but I despise just about every other casting choice

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None of the costumes shown?


They're ok, but he's taking way too much of The Dark Knight Returns.

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Don't like the Batmobile?


Pretty good, but nothing to get me that excited. It's just a car, and it's going to be hard to top the Tumbler.

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Neither was Amy Adams.


I liked Cavill, but not Adams. She's not horrible, but Amy Adams is no Lois Lane. Wait until Jennifer Lawrence turns 30, and that's Lois Lane.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:04 pm to
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I agree with you, you can't hold this lame PC argument against either one. BnG seems to be the only one doing that.


my point being was there would be flack for DC if the roles were reversed. Marvel receives none until now since DC announced the WW project.

Gamora and Widow were both supporting roles and neither have been in a solo movie. how is that the same? congrats on having minor female leads. does that mean DC did it first since they had Louis Lane in Superman? of course not. being featured in a movie and being the lead are very different.

DC announced suicide squad and gets criticism for following GotG. yet Marvel receives none for following WW? seems about right.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:11 pm to
I would think that the announcement of a Suicide Squad movie would get mostly praise, since it's a departure from every other superhero movie and they're looking at great directors that would give it a unique feel.

The complaint for most superhero films is "too many villains". This is the one case where multiple villains is a good thing.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:15 pm to
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I would think that the announcement of a Suicide Squad movie would get mostly praise


one would think that. and it actually has for the most part. this board is just a very different beast.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:19 pm to
Marvel's first project with a woman as the main character comes out next year (AKA Jessica Jones)
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:25 pm to
if you want to stick to just television then DC did that in the 70s with WW. my point isnt that Marvel should or shouldnt be doing it. its just that they are clearly following WW and that has no bearing on Marvel criticism.

Suicide Squad follows GotG and gets a huge comparison. which im not exactly sure why since Guardians is a massive space adventure while SS is more of a gritty, street level movie about villains. but whatever. some people like to pick and choose to fit their argument.

btw, jessica jones hasnt even been casted or set a production date. i doubt they make the may 2015 deadline.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:28 pm to
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I would think that the announcement of a Suicide Squad movie would get mostly praise, since it's a departure from every other superhero movie and they're looking at great directors that would give it a unique feel.



I actually really do like the idea, I just worry about the competence of the producers behind it.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:35 pm to
Supergirl will debut on CBS in 2015 and hopefully Jessica Jones will appear sometime that year. The Marvel Netflix series have been very slow going.

Daredevil was announced last November, they cast Matt Murdock in May and started production in September. Since they're shooting an entire season before releasing it on Netflix, it would be early to mid 2015 before we see that first Marvel/Netflix series.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:38 pm to
Strange should play a little older than Gosling's current "30ish" role. Personally, I really enjoy the idea of Timothy Olyphant in the Strange role, but that will never happen. Gosling strikes me as a Marvel type for sure...if I had to peg Gosling for any "major" heroic Marvel Studios role it would be among

a recasted Clint Barton
Frank Castle
Moon Knight
Daimon Hellstrom
the pacifist Wonder Man
the much loathed Sentry
Adam Warlock

ETA: I also think that Marvel is withholding the announcement of a female Marvel movie until around AoU. It will clearly be either Black Widow or Captain Marvel, or both.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:42 pm to
the Strange casting rumors have been interesting. sometimes Strange is portrayed with an accent and other times he is not. i guess they want to keep him without an accent. i never pictured Gosling as the character. He seems too much of a "pretty boy" for the master of the mystic arts.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:43 pm to
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my point being was there would be flack for DC if the roles were reversed. Marvel receives none until now since DC announced the WW project.


DC would only receive flack because Wonder Woman is a brand, a no-brainer. It has nothing to do with female. And if any female should be on screen, it's WW. And I still haven't called out DC or Marvel for not putting women on screen, FWIW. People may not like the Gadot casting, but that's different.

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Gamora and Widow were both supporting roles and neither have been in a solo movie. how is that the same? congrats on having minor female leads. does that mean DC did it first since they had Louis Lane in Superman? of course not. being featured in a movie and being the lead are very different.


It's the level of recognition. Widow could have NEVER carried her own film until maybe now. And that's still in question.

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DC announced suicide squad and gets criticism for following GotG. yet Marvel receives none for following WW? seems about right.


Who's given legitimate criticism for the Suicide Squad film? I think that's a bit of an over reaction. People are puzzled because DC is going BvS....Suicide Squad? That's just odd. I don't think it's bad, it's just weird and with seemingly no SS characters in BvS, even weirder.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:47 pm to
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it's just weird and with seemingly no SS characters in BvS, even weirder.


how many Guardians characters were in any other marvel movie?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:54 pm to
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it's just weird and with seemingly no SS characters in BvS, even weirder.
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how many Guardians characters were in any other marvel movie?


It's not how Marvel would do it. Which is how I prefer things.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:15 pm to
Frank Castle is the only Marvel Character who has aged in real time.

Stallone
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37242 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:16 pm to
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it's just weird and with seemingly no SS characters in BvS, even weirder.



how many Guardians characters were in any other marvel movie?


Right, but almost 10 years of a universe counts for something. People knew enough about this film to put it into a bigger picture. And the marketing was brilliant.

Granted, we obviously don't have enough info on things like marketing for SS, but what Marvel did was risky. Same goes for SS.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:17 pm to
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it's just weird and with seemingly no SS characters in BvS, even weirder.

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how many Guardians characters were in any other marvel movie?



It's not how Marvel would do it. Which is how I prefer things.


But didn't Marvel just do it that way?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
36012 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:18 pm to
David Ayer's 'Suicide Squad' Will Be 'Dirty Dozen With Supervillains'

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David Ayer has been a busy man lately. The writer/director has turned out End Of Watch, Sabotage and now Fury is little over two action-packed years. Next up is the serious upscale that comes with commandeering DC’s freshly-announced superhero movie, Suicide Squad, and Ayer is ready for the challenge.

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“Fury whetted my appetite for a bigger canvas and this idea of world creation,” he told Empire. “You can do amazing things as a filmmaker if you have the proper tools, and those are time and money.”


Money and time he’ll have plenty of – Suicide Squad is scheduled as the second DC behemoth to hit the big screen, following Batman V Superman in two years’ time – and, although he couldn’t say much, his vision for the movie should reassure fans. “I can say that it’s a Dirty Dozen with supervillains,” he said. “Then I can ask the question, ‘Does a movie really need good guys?’”

Maybe not, and on paper at least, Suicide Squad’s bad guys, antipodean asshat Captain Boomerang especially, can be an unsavory bunch. So how do you go about casting an Australian racist? “Like one would cast any other role,” Ayer rebutted. “I don’t know what I’m going to do. I’m going to do what I do in my typical fever dream of directing.”

It may be a departure from the gritty, real-world settings he's delved into so far in his career, but Ayer is relishing the leap into the comic-book galaxy. “I love the passion [comic-book fans] have for these characters and these worlds. I think there’s something incredible about the comic genre and technology has finally caught up with pen and ink to render these fantastic worlds in a way that feels believable and visceral to audiences. It’s a secular religion in that regards. The mythology that these characters represent – the idea of them as fallen gods on Earth – is intriguing to me. I can’t wait to start exploring those corridors.”


Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:19 pm to
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The Dark Knight Returns.


You keep busting on this. Are you the lone person who hated DKR? Everyone loved it when it came out.
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