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re: Should Godcheaux or Herron move back to DE in '15?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:57 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:57 pm to Hot Carl
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Perhaps you can, in fact, read, but I'm not sure "I think" means what you think it means
Haha. Apparently it means your opinion on a matter is more valid than the opinion of someone who sees something differently than you. If that's the case, I think you're losing this argument and there is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise since you've failed to answer my question on who you'd put in front of Bower at this point.
With all due respect and no offense intended, but I think you're a poor poster.
(In this case, my "I think" will trump anything you say and allows me to back out of anything I say after "I think" because that's the rule you just set. Oh well, I think I'm done with you too. See how that shite works?)
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Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:58 pm to ForeLSU
Hunter is a true JR? My mistake. Regardless, I still think he's almost certainly gone. Not that I want him to, but it's extremely likely.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:02 pm to ForeLSU
Hunter is a true Junior...no red shirt. DG is listed at 298 lbs. He is a DT in a 4-3. Neal should definitely move back to DE. I could see FH moving as well to DE, just not sure about either ones quickness or first step especially FH.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:02 pm to Hot Carl
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Instead of bulking him up for DT, I'm just positing that they may should adjust the plan and keep him at his natural position of DE
If they targeted him as a tackle, wouldn't you think his natural position is inside rather than outside? If I recall correctly, lots of people were saying he'd get moved to tackle from the get go. Maybe his frame and speed(?) are more suited to tackle than end?
(My disagreement with you here has nothing to do with that other argument we were in.)
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:06 pm to NotRight37
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Neal should definitely move back to DE
he was at DE last night, I think with QT returning and Bain getting more time he wasn't as necessary at DT
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:09 pm to USARMYDasher
[quote]But till this point, he has certainly underachieved. I[/quote
Doesn't he have the most tackles of any dlinemen in the sec? The guy will be drafted high on athleticism alone. And there will be plenty of film of him making plays.
Doesn't he have the most tackles of any dlinemen in the sec? The guy will be drafted high on athleticism alone. And there will be plenty of film of him making plays.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:11 pm to Hot Carl
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Neil is getting experience at DT now, not DE. He is 6 ft max, I just can't see him ever being a viable option at DE. He may well turn out to be a very good DT though.
I don't think so. He does not have the size.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:12 pm to Hot Carl
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Not that I want him to, but it's extremely likely.
I disagree. His grade from the NFL won't be 1st or 2nd round, he'll get a stay in school grade. A great combine showing can increase his draft stock no doubt, but he seems like a kid that cares about school and continually improving his game. I honestly think it's a toss up whether he comes back or not. Maybe a slight edge that he comes back. Montgomery and Mingo both had great draft grades their RS sophomore years and both came back for their 4th year. Hunter might as well
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:15 pm to Hot Carl
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Lacatoure
Completely baffling. He is overwhelmed on almost every snap. He is a HUGE handicap. Ole Miss and Bama are going to abuse him.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:15 pm to Mayfair2Pville
Tehuma is not better than Bower. If he was the coaches would be playing him.
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:18 pm to Sasquatch Smash
but I think you're a poor poster
Imagine how much that'll keep me up tonight
Imagine how much that'll keep me up tonight
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:23 pm to Hot Carl
Bower has one spot locked up, and I want the other spot to be occupied by Herron and Teuhema. I'd like Herron to be the starter, with Teuhema coming in on obvious passing downs like Mingo did in 2010, and just about all of 2011.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:25 pm to Penrod
I'm not sure anybody is saying Tehuma is better than Bower right now. But it's mighty impressive that he's played as much as he has. I--and it appears others--""think" that after more time in the system, that he "may" have a higher ceiling than Bower. He may not. But I think he has been very impressive so far and very surprising. I didn't expect him to play 1 meaningful snap all season.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:25 pm to Hot Carl
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We absolutely need Godchaeuax where he is now for the rest of the season no question. I'm talking about next year with the returners/additions at DR and the losses at DE. He is an absolute stud. He could play DE at 270 and bea fricking super beast.
No. It's the same reason why Ole Miss moved Nkemdiche to DT. They wanted his athleticism and strength inside.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:30 pm to Hot Carl
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Neil is getting experience at DT now, not DE. He is 6 ft max, I just can't see him ever being a viable option at DE. He may well turn out to be a very good DT though.
Neal should have been moved to fullback a year ago. Too short (5'11) and too lightweight (255) to be playing at DE or DT.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:30 pm to Hot Carl
Of any of the DTs, the guy who can play inside and out is Lewis Neal.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:31 pm to Hot Carl
Our dline is setting up nicely for next year regardless of whether Hunter leaves.
We have two very good DEs in Neal and Bower. Deondre Clark and Teuhuma have shown potential this year. I'd bet they'll be serviceable backups next year.
At DT we're loaded! Lacouture is playing very well for a second year guy. He should be coming into his own next year. Bain is starting to look good - also for a second year guy. Godchaux is going to be dominant next year. And we have Heron, Valentine, Gilmore, and LMFAO. If reports about Valentine are true, that gives us four reliable guys and three others in Heron, Gilmore and LMFAO. Dline will be a team strength next year.
We have two very good DEs in Neal and Bower. Deondre Clark and Teuhuma have shown potential this year. I'd bet they'll be serviceable backups next year.
At DT we're loaded! Lacouture is playing very well for a second year guy. He should be coming into his own next year. Bain is starting to look good - also for a second year guy. Godchaux is going to be dominant next year. And we have Heron, Valentine, Gilmore, and LMFAO. If reports about Valentine are true, that gives us four reliable guys and three others in Heron, Gilmore and LMFAO. Dline will be a team strength next year.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:32 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Bower has one spot locked up
He may very well wind up starting, but there is just no possible way you can say that spot is "locked up." It's just not.
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I want the other spot to be occupied by Herron and Teuhema. I'd like Herron to be the starter
I want LSU to field the best possible defensive line as possible. I do not care who that is--I have no dog in this fight. I just think it's a interesting discussion as to what that combo might be.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:35 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Bower has one spot locked up, and I want the other spot to be occupied by Herron and Teuhema. I'd like Herron to be the starter, with Teuhema coming in on obvious passing downs like Mingo did in 2010, and just about all of 2011.
You guys are all forgetting about Deondre Clark. He has played more than Teuhema this year, who is more or less a pass rush specialist right now.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:48 pm to Datbayoubengal
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No. It's the same reason why Ole Miss moved Nkemdiche to DT. They wanted his athleticism and strength inside.
I completely understand the need to have a disruptive DT--it may be the most important position on the defense. But I bet Ole Miss didn't have the DT depth behind Nkemdiche that "I think" we are going to have next year. And it may be our uniforms, but Godcheaux just looks more like your prototypical tall, lean, long-armed DT than RN. If he looks that lean and is really almost 3 bills, he could wreak fricking unbelievable havoc at DE. Or DT, too.
I guess I'm just concerned we're gonna have 9(Godcheaux, Lacotoure, Thomas, Herron, Bain, Gilmore, Valentine, Neal, LMFAO) of our best 13 defensive linemen at 1 position and only 4 (Bower, 58, Clark, Patterson) at the other. With as little as we've rotated the last 2 years, it seems like not the best way to get your best guys on the field.
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