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Why do we allow political asylum in the U.S.?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:50 pm
Watching Madam Secretary, which I have been enjoying. However, tonight some Chinese student claims political asylum and (POTENTIAL SPOILERS) apparently the US has a process for dealing with those people and doesn't automatically send them back home.
It's real per this: LINK
Apparently over 2 million people since 1980 have found there way to the U.S. and stayed under political asylum. Why would we not just send those people back home? Why would we let them stay here? They are not our responsibility.
It's real per this: LINK
Apparently over 2 million people since 1980 have found there way to the U.S. and stayed under political asylum. Why would we not just send those people back home? Why would we let them stay here? They are not our responsibility.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:52 pm to LeonPhelps
Because other countries do it to us?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 10:56 pm to LeonPhelps
quote:Did you get into your US History class late because of a waitlist or something?
Apparently over 2 million people since 1980 have found there way to the U.S. and stayed under political asylum. Why would we not just send those people back home? Why would we let them stay here? They are not our responsibility.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:00 pm to LeonPhelps
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Watching Madam Secretar
Stopped reading right there...
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:00 pm to LeonPhelps
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Why would we not just send those people back home? Why would we let them stay here? They are not our responsibility.
Because we're America and we stand for freedom? And we have an honorable tradition of taking in victims of oppression?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:02 pm to VOR
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Because we're America and we stand for freedom? And we have an honorable tradition of taking in victims of oppression?
Freedom of American citizens.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:03 pm to LeonPhelps
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Freedom of American citizens.
As someone above suggested, perhaps a re-reading of American history would be helpful.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:03 pm to VOR
Only since the 1960s. We had quite sensible immigration laws for a good part of our history to include the quite intelligent Chinese exclusion acts.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:05 pm to OleWar
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We had quite sensible immigration laws for a good part of our history to include the quite intelligent Chinese exclusion acts.
Holy shite, man.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:06 pm to VOR
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As someone above suggested, perhaps a re-reading of American history would be helpful.
I am quite well versed in history. More so of the middle ages European variety and of the Roman and Greek empires, but I know American history fairly well. I am aware of that ridiculous phrase on the state of liberty. But I don't understand why we are protecting citizens of other countries from their governments. It is not our job to police the world or provide a safe haven for others. We need to only act in our own best interests and nothing else.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:06 pm to Malik Agar
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Stopped reading right there
Madam Secretary is one of the least political shows I've ever watched based on American gov't. I don't know if I've heard republican or democrat at least once in the several episodes I've watched. It's more of a conspiracy, political and governmental thriller. It's a good show.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:07 pm to LeonPhelps
Why would a nation LITERALLY STARTED BY POLITICAL ASYLUM SEEKERS have a generous tradition of political asylum.
We've got us a real conundrum here. A puzzler.
It's too bad the Indians didn't have the Internet so we could have bitchy threads about how those Pilgrims and Quakers and Scots-Irish should just harden the frick up and go back to England.
We've got us a real conundrum here. A puzzler.
It's too bad the Indians didn't have the Internet so we could have bitchy threads about how those Pilgrims and Quakers and Scots-Irish should just harden the frick up and go back to England.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:07 pm to LeonPhelps
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. It is not our job to police the world or provide a safe haven for others. We need to only act in our own best interests and nothing else.
Clearly, then, your question is rhetorical. You have a point of view and opinion you wish to express. Cool.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:09 pm to Sentrius
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Madam Secretary is one of the least political shows I've ever watched based on American gov't. I don't know if I've heard republican or democrat at least once in the several episodes I've watched. It's more of a conspiracy, political and governmental thriller. It's a good show.
100% agree. This is why I like it. I actually think the president is a republican because he was former head of the CIA. But there has been zero mention of politics. This is strictly on foreign policy in a pragmatic way. The secretary is a former college professor and might lean left, but she goes against that leaning when required, such as by employing the Blackwater equivalent. The Blackwater equivalent is shown in a very good light, btw.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:11 pm to Iosh
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Why would a nation LITERALLY STARTED BY POLITICAL ASYLUM SEEKERS
That is an interesting way to put it. Those people already lived in that land and had established roots and local government and saw no reason to still be taking orders from and paying taxes to an unelected king 3,000 miles away. How is that the same as someone escaping from their home land to a foreign territory and asking that already established government to take them in?
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:12 pm to VOR
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Clearly, then, your question is rhetorical. You have a point of view and opinion you wish to express. Cool.
I was hoping to get a debate going. I thought that was the point of this board.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:12 pm to LeonPhelps
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100% agree. This is why I like it. I actually think the president is a republican because he was former head of the CIA. But there has been zero mention of politics. This is strictly on foreign policy in a pragmatic way. The secretary is a former college professor and might lean left, but she goes against that leaning when required, such as by employing the Blackwater equivalent. The Blackwater equivalent is shown in a very good light, btw.
Agreed. I was just about to write this show off as a Hillary Clinton infomercial but decided to give the pilot a shot. I haven't regretted it and looks it won't give me a chance to.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:12 pm to Iosh
Big difference between political asylum seekers and colonists.
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