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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:10 pm to
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So is it fair to guess that Oliver will start digging into Ray's actual agenda and end up saving Felicity at the last minute just as Ray has put her in harms way, then Oliver will declare his love for her?


You're such a girl
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:21 pm to
Am I wrong in thinking that Ray is a good guy? I googled ATOM and it said he was a superhero.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:24 pm to
i think hes a good guy. seems the show wants you to believe otherwise. but he seems good intentioned to me.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:39 pm to
Yeah, I would be absolutely shocked if he turns out to be a bad guy. I think he ends up becoming the superhero Atom by then end of his storyline.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 8:44 pm
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:48 pm to
Hmmm.

ATOMs name in the comics is Ray Palmer. The suit he had on the show was named the A.T.O.M. Exosuit.

I think the limb you are stepping out on is fairly safe.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:26 pm to

Yeah I know. Esquire was asking if he was wrong in thinking that Ray was a good guy, so I figured I'd go out on that limb.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 9:31 pm to
I know it sounds terrible but that seems to be the plot with Laurel, so why not Felicity? Now that she is his new love interest.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:32 pm to
Two more Easter Eggs:

Sherwood Florist: That was Dinah Lance's flower shop during the Bronze Age.

Mr. Gardner: Ray gets the dwarf star matter that allows him to become the Atom from Mr. Gardner. The Atom was created by writer Gardner Fox.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Sherwood Florist: That was Dinah Lance's flower shop during the Bronze Age.


which in itself is an easter egg to robin hood

iluv, yeah idk what the end goal with felicity and oliver is really. do you think they work together as characters? i just dont see the same chemistry that other fans clamor on about. personally, im really enjoying her with ray.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:16 pm to
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do you think they work together as characters? i just dont see the same chemistry that other fans clamor on about. personally, im really enjoying her with ray.


The chemistry is there, but they are very going out of the way to try and turn it off. They are forcing them apart fairly abruptly it seems. In a manner which is not realistic imo.

Probably because it was never designed to be in the show but they wanted to throw the fans a bone. Now they have to pull them back apart fairly quickly. I can see Felicity either not being on the team very soon, or Ray finds out and joins in. Oh and hires Oliver....

Oh and by the by. In the first 2 seasons they always had Oliver in social settings. Showing his dual responsibilit Ord and him showing that face to others. He does nothing now. If a man as famous as Oliver Queen is doing what he is doing, with no "day job" or outside social scene, someone will figure him out soon. Oh and Diggle needs a permanent mask. Cupid saw him with Arrow, if she sees him spend a lot of time with Oliver.... 2+2=4.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:20 pm to
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If a man as famous as Oliver Queen is doing what he is doing, with no "day job" or outside social scene, someone will figure him out soon.


i think hes okay since the Queen family got drudged through the mud and he lost his company. no one really cares about a "has been."

quote:

Oh and Diggle needs a permanent mask. Cupid saw him with Arrow,


i felt the same way. if anyone sees diggle in the field and sees him with Oliver, its extremely obvious whats going on.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:32 pm to
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i think hes okay since the Queen family got drudged through the mud and he lost his company. no one really cares about a "has been."


I'm still a little confused as how Oliver lost everything. I can understand the company and maybe most of his money. But the estate should still be his. It's like they made him too broke. He doesn't even have a legal place of residence, I don't think.

I know he has cash stashed away and it seems like he could take money from criminals (like Felicity did with the one criminal, hacking the guy's bank accounts). But people do have to be a little curious with how he spends his time or what he does.

Also, what does Thea think that about all these people going in and out of the basement of the club? Why didn't they move the base to the back-up one Oliver had last season?
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:39 pm to
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what does Thea think that about all these people going in and out of the basement of the club?


she knows oliver is the arrow. Oliver doesnt know that she knows. that i know she knows.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:12 am to
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He could be operating an illegal fight club called "The Lutus" which Ollie breaks up. When he sees the Arrow, he exclaims, "Jupiter's cock!"



I love that they are using all these spartacus actors.. not to mention the nerd out I had at the end of last nights episode.
Posted by Tedock
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:48 am to
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I watched an interview with Amell last night where he said the shows completely understands peoples concerns with Laurel becoming Canary. He said she will NOT be the same canary as Sarah. they understand that takes a large amount of training and time.


I think in the same interview Amell said that he might not actually show up in the present day for a couple of episodes. Said he had like 9 days off in a row and that was the longest he had gone without filming anything since the show started.

It might be interesting if Oliver does disappear for a couple of episodes after the midseason finale. Seeing how Team Arrow plus maybe Ray handle Danny “Brick” Brickwell (who appears in episodes 10, 11, and 12) trying to take over the city.

Though that does mean that Laurel and Roy would have to shoulder more of the story in the present day and neither have proven they can do that yet.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:32 am to
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I'm still a little confused as how Oliver lost everything. I can understand the company and maybe most of his money. But the estate should still be his. It's like they made him too broke. He doesn't even have a legal place of residence, I don't think.

Last season they said that Oliver, Moira, and Thea all had to sign some sort of paperwork to get the estate moved out from under the company, but Thea refused to sign it because she got her panties in a wad. When Isabel offically took control of the company, she basically also controlled their estate. That is why she was able to kick Thea out of her house (or maybe it was the club).

Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:35 am to
So you think Thea knows Oliver is the Arrow? You would think that Malcolm would've told her, but they are sure making it appear the she doesn't know yet.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14421 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:45 am to
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So you think Thea knows Oliver is the Arrow?


I almost thing she has to know because she would come off as pretty retarded if she didn't know even though she's so engulfed in that same world.


Glad Tedock dropped in with the very plausible theory about the time jump and Ollie's possible temporary absence.

This season was boring me a bit, and even though I had faith that something was going to happen, I like having a good idea of what. And I love time jumps in tv series.
Posted by Tedock
Little Rock
Member since Jun 2014
715 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:37 am to
According to the producers Thea does NOT know Oliver's secret identity.

TVline interview

quote:

I’ll tell you, because I don’t think it’s a spoiler: Thea does not know that Oliver is the Arrow. We sort of played that trick with Moira — the idea that ever since the end of Season 1, Moira knew that Oliver was the Arrow — and to have Thea be in possession of that knowledge and not be telling Oliver would be repeating ourselves a bit, which we try hard to avoid doing. That said, the reason Malcolm doesn’t tell Thea Oliver’s secret is because that is Oliver’s secret to tell. The thing about Malcolm is we’ve always tried to write him as “the word’s most principled bad guy.” He has a very distinct code of honor. Even when he destroyed the city at the end of Season 1, he considered it to be for very noble, altruistic purposes. He was “burning the village to save it.” So where Malcolm is concerned, he doesn’t act like your typical villain. He believes that he’s doing the right thing by Thea, and he also believes that Oliver is like a son to him. Being like a son to him, he’s not going to spoiler Oliver’s secret
Posted by BlacknGold
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:00 pm to
i thought for sure she knew. so she finds Roys Arsenal gear but doesnt put together that his mentor is Oliver, with whom he all of a sudden started hanging out with? and she ran away because of all the "secrets." which is now just Malcolm and Roy. ok, i guess.

so is she going to freak out again whenever Oliver decides to tell her? seems like some of these characters get lost in the fold of the show at times.
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