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2nd time watching the Auburn game
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:46 am
After watching the game for a second time some of my original opinions have changed. I felt like major changes in the offense were a must but now I am not so sure. Brandon Harris missed multiple wide open receivers which probably discouraged the play caller (not sure if the play caller is Les or Cam) from taking chances on third down. The offense looked excellent on first down, they just had multiple bad second down plays. The worst thing I saw from the coaching staff all night was how they handled the clock management before half time, and as most fans know time management is something Les has struggled with in the past. If they are able to get Harris under control and be more consistent on early downs then this team will look better in no time. I understand the uproar from the fan base but lets not run Les out of town just yet, after all he has proven he can win at LSU.
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:48 am to Vandyfan19
What about dat defense doh? care to give that assessment?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:49 am to Vandyfan19
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which probably discouraged the play caller (not sure if the play caller is Les or Cam) from taking chances on third down
Lost me here. They could have Peyton Manning at QB and they wouldn't take many chances...well, ever
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:50 am to Vandyfan19
When Les said execution was a problem at the press conference, some said he was throwing the kids under the bus. But you're spot on. The O-line made opportunities for Harris, but he got spooked out of the pocket. The run game was good for 7-8 on first down early on, but we couldn't convert for 2-3 yards on the succeeding two plays. Receivers were constantly open but not seen or thrown high, uncatchable balls. I understand criticisms of our offensive system, but my biggest gripe isn't the scheme that we run; it's that we don't run it well.
ETA: Make no mistake, the lack of preparation and poor execution are still on the coaches, but the players have to step it up as well. It's one of the main reasons I don't understand all of the love for Cam. Whether it's his offense or Les' (it's his, btw) he and the offensive position coaches are responsible for making it run well.
ETA: Make no mistake, the lack of preparation and poor execution are still on the coaches, but the players have to step it up as well. It's one of the main reasons I don't understand all of the love for Cam. Whether it's his offense or Les' (it's his, btw) he and the offensive position coaches are responsible for making it run well.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:50 am to Vandyfan19
You watched that crap again? If there isn't already one, someone should start MA (masochists anonymous) for poor souls like you
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:50 am to Vandyfan19
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2nd time watching the Auburn game
Why would you do that to yourself?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:50 am to Vandyfan19
I agree. Both QB's have shown signs of great ability, but they both need time to build the composure that it takes to win on the road in the SEC.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:52 am to Vandyfan19
Completely agree.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:53 am to Navytiger74
The defense did give up a ton of yards, but they were also on the field a long time. If you watch the second half of the second quarter the defense is gassed they can barely stand. The defense is better then it looks they just need to get some help from their offense so there not on the field as much.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:54 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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They could have Peyton Manning at QB and they wouldn't take many chances...well, ever
When they had ZM at QB they took many more chances.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:56 am to Vandyfan19
How does the OL look second time around?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:05 am to Vandyfan19
Without a doubt, the coaches were at a disadvantage with play calling with Harris being so off.
However, that doesn't explain running Magee on 3rd and 7 for the 1st series of the game (when they had no idea Harris was off). It doesn't explain putting Fournette in finally during 4th series (where we immediately got our first 1st down of the game on his first carry). And I don't care how off the QB is, a 3rd and 15 QB draw ain't getting it done.
However, that doesn't explain running Magee on 3rd and 7 for the 1st series of the game (when they had no idea Harris was off). It doesn't explain putting Fournette in finally during 4th series (where we immediately got our first 1st down of the game on his first carry). And I don't care how off the QB is, a 3rd and 15 QB draw ain't getting it done.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:10 am to PacWilly
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What about dat defense doh? care to give that assessment?
Auburn's WRs made some huge catches early in the game. I give Auburn full credit for those catches, but they were really only making BIG plays on us early in the game. I believe the momentum completely went Auburn's way after that 3rd TD and the wind went completely out from LSU's sails.
And like what was already referenced, we were gouging them on first downs. IIRC we had 3 or 4, 2nd and 2 situations where we threw the ball. Harris was off with his throws all night, and we couldn't come back from being down 3 TD's early. We definitely have improving to do, but I feel that we win at least 3 more of our remaining games. Go ahead, call me crazy.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:10 am to Cmlsu5618
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How does the OL look second time around?
Why the constant trashing of the OL?
Did you watch all those first down plays where we kept getting 6-8 yards a pop? The OL struggled on 3rd and short....but you want to know why?? It was the formation we were in. Tell our 7 to block their 9 when their 9 know what is coming and then tell me how you expect that to work out.
As for pass protection, Harris had enough time to pass. He left the pocket too early a couple of times. There was ample time there.
I don't think the OL is as bad as people make it out to be. Just like the QB's, the OL will look bad with predictable play calling.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:13 am to Vandyfan19
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2nd time watching the Auburn gameThe defense did give up a ton of yards, but they were also on the field a long time. If you watch the second half of the second quarter the defense is gassed they can barely stand. The defense is better then it looks they just need to get some help from their offense so there not on the field as much.
You are correct in all of this, but you will get nowhere on this site with most of these kids. They want blood and they want it NOW. They don't won't to hear positives. They only want negativity. The truth is that the play calling was highly conservative for a reason. Still, the line was opening up some holes....and had some success....before drive killing mistakes by the QB. On defense, I saw significant improvement by the DL....and the secondary played good coverage. Auburn made some plays...you got to give them some credit there. Sometimes it is just poor scheme or busted coverage, but sometimes, teams execute.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:13 am to Vandyfan19
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The defense did give up a ton of yards, but they were also on the field a long time. If you watch the second half of the second quarter the defense is gassed they can barely stand.
They gave up 270 plus yards in the first quarter. The most a Gus team has gained in one quarter. The first quarter. They should have been gassed, because they were chasing them the whole time.
Harris missed wide open receivers, and ran when he should have thrown. If your QB can't make throws, you have to adjust and run. Auburn knew that and stacked the box.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:15 am to Cmlsu5618
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How does the OL look second time around?
like a spread team trying to run i formation sets
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:16 am to Vandyfan19
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Brandon Harris missed multiple wide open receivers which probably discouraged the play caller
Exactly.
Shitting down his leg on the first two 2nd downs of the game didn't help either.
The play calling was always going to be conservative. Harris' shitty play forced us to be even more conservative.
And we'll be very conservative against Florida on Saturday. But we can probably afford it this weekend, because their offense probably isn't capable of running away from us on the scoreboard.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:17 am to LSUGrad9295
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I don't think the OL is as bad as people make it out to be.
agreed....but people refuse to look at that. If teams are stacking the box, and we can't open up running room...it doesn't mean the OL sucks.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 11:18 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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Lost me here. They could have Peyton Manning at QB and they wouldn't take many chances...well, ever
Are you saying we never took chances with Mettenberger last year? Because it sounds like that.
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