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It's not the losses...it's HOW LSU has lost.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:42 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:42 am
Card-carrying negatiger, but bear with me...
Only the most delusional LSU fan thought that we would be a serious contender this season. Most rational fans predicted a rebuilding year, with a number of losses, because of the youth and losses at key positions. A good number (not all negatigers) thought we were too highly ranked after the Wisconsin game.
The warning signs were there for Wisconsin. They had LSU beat but for key injuries to their D-line, and Gordon getting put on the shelf. Yes, we did change schemes to force them to pass, but that was only half the story. It's no accident that we were able to start moving the ball in the 3rd Quarter. We won, but barely.
Two "cupcakes." We actually looked good against SHS and really pounded them as we should have. ULM was another story. We won, and it was not really in doubt, but we had to work harder than we should have against an overmatched team. NMSU...again, we thrashed them, but good.
The issue is the two losses. LSU did not just lose...it got embarrassed in both games. Yes, MSU is the real deal, and Auburn may be as well, but even so...even a young team should not get its doors blown off like that, when it has the talent we supposedly have.
And THAT is what has many people so concerned. We have been completely outmatched in our losses. We have not competed...at all. We have not adjusted...at all. Same offense, same defense, no matter what the other team is doing. Getting another year under the belt of these players is not going do any good if the scheme remains the same. The SEC has figured it out.
End Rant.
Only the most delusional LSU fan thought that we would be a serious contender this season. Most rational fans predicted a rebuilding year, with a number of losses, because of the youth and losses at key positions. A good number (not all negatigers) thought we were too highly ranked after the Wisconsin game.
The warning signs were there for Wisconsin. They had LSU beat but for key injuries to their D-line, and Gordon getting put on the shelf. Yes, we did change schemes to force them to pass, but that was only half the story. It's no accident that we were able to start moving the ball in the 3rd Quarter. We won, but barely.
Two "cupcakes." We actually looked good against SHS and really pounded them as we should have. ULM was another story. We won, and it was not really in doubt, but we had to work harder than we should have against an overmatched team. NMSU...again, we thrashed them, but good.
The issue is the two losses. LSU did not just lose...it got embarrassed in both games. Yes, MSU is the real deal, and Auburn may be as well, but even so...even a young team should not get its doors blown off like that, when it has the talent we supposedly have.
And THAT is what has many people so concerned. We have been completely outmatched in our losses. We have not competed...at all. We have not adjusted...at all. Same offense, same defense, no matter what the other team is doing. Getting another year under the belt of these players is not going do any good if the scheme remains the same. The SEC has figured it out.
End Rant.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to udtiger
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The issue is the two losses. LSU did not just lose...it got embarrassed in both games.
Yep
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to udtiger
We postin the same shite, baw. 
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to udtiger
Welcome to 2005 and on
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to udtiger
Fresh info, thanks much
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:44 am to The Mick
Now, I understand.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:45 am to udtiger
What bothers me is there doesn't seems to be any improvement from game to game. After 4 games our QBs should be able to handle passing the ball and the defense should know their assignments.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:46 am to udtiger
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Yes, MSU is the real deal, and Auburn may be as well, but even so...even a young team should not get its doors blown off like that, when it has the talent we supposedly have.
Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:46 am to FT
quote:
We postin the same shite, baw.
Just saw that. Had to do a double-take.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:47 am to LNCHBOX
quote:keep in mind that a change happened at auburn...
Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:48 am to The Egg
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keep in mind that a change happened at auburn...
Well that change isn't happening here. Doesn't take away from my point that young teams sometimes get the shite kicked out of them before becoming good.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:50 am to LNCHBOX
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They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
last year? they lost twice. once to us and in the national title game
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:51 am to LNCHBOX
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Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
Yeah. Auburn went and got a good coach.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:52 am to LNCHBOX
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Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
So, do you believe Miles' coaching philosophies will contribute to a like turnaround for LSU?
Everyone is evolving and Miles is not. I think this last lost is the beginning of the end of Miles' tenure here. We likely won't make a bowl game this year and b/c of Miles' stubbornnes to evolve next year won't be much better than this year. We have now taken Miss State's place as the bottom dweller in the SEC West. Only a coaching change will remedy this.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:52 am to Topwater Trout
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last year? they lost twice. once to us and in the national title game
Reading comprehension helps.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:53 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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We have now taken Miss State's place as the bottom dweller in the SEC West.
GTFO. This year isn't even over, and it's the first year MSU has looked to finish ahead of us in as long as I remember.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:54 am to The Egg
where is the RATT team, prom, egg, want to put a pba out on foosball now?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:55 am to LNCHBOX
oh i see now "first year" had nothing to do with the new coaching staff.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:02 am to udtiger
I don't disagree with much of your post. It's solid. But this:
simply isn't true.
See Saban's defending NC squad getting blown out by 30 to Georgia in 04 in his 5th year as an example. And that team wasn't nearly as young as this year.
The defending SEC Champ team in 02 was blown out by Auburn and Bama. Those were ugly ugly losses. Even the UT bowl game was pretty bad for a coach that is supposedly unbeatable with a month to prepare (last year's OU squad would beg to differ).
Hell, the 01 SEC Championship team itself had the most complete beatdown I've ever seen in Tiger Stadium against Spurrier and Grossman.
We aren't a good team right now. Bad teams get beat by good teams. Bad.
Unfortunately, the West is filled with good teams this year, Iincluding the two that "embarassed" us.
It likely won't be the last time it happens this year either.
The test is how the team responds and builds toward next year when the rest of the West is rebuilding.
We'll see then if the doomsdayers are right.
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even a young team should not get its doors blown off like that, when it has the talent we supposedly have.
simply isn't true.
See Saban's defending NC squad getting blown out by 30 to Georgia in 04 in his 5th year as an example. And that team wasn't nearly as young as this year.
The defending SEC Champ team in 02 was blown out by Auburn and Bama. Those were ugly ugly losses. Even the UT bowl game was pretty bad for a coach that is supposedly unbeatable with a month to prepare (last year's OU squad would beg to differ).
Hell, the 01 SEC Championship team itself had the most complete beatdown I've ever seen in Tiger Stadium against Spurrier and Grossman.
We aren't a good team right now. Bad teams get beat by good teams. Bad.
Unfortunately, the West is filled with good teams this year, Iincluding the two that "embarassed" us.
It likely won't be the last time it happens this year either.
The test is how the team responds and builds toward next year when the rest of the West is rebuilding.
We'll see then if the doomsdayers are right.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:03 am to udtiger
Players got to play better and coaches have to coach better.
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