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re: It's not the losses...it's HOW LSU has lost.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:16 am to udtiger
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:16 am to udtiger
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The issue is the two losses. LSU did not just lose...it got embarrassed in both games.
Yup. And we basically also got embarrassed in our only decent win. However, we (me included) let Miles slide on that won bc our players played well enough to sneak out with the W and because Wisconsin was going to run away with the Big 10 and put up 40 on everyone.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:35 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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We likely won't make a bowl game this year and b/c of Miles' stubbornnes to evolve next year won't be much better than this year. We have now taken Miss State's place as the bottom dweller in the SEC West. Only a coaching change will remedy this.
holy shite
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:47 am to udtiger
This guy gets it!
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:50 am to udtiger
I agree with OP. I had an argument over the weekend and said id rather go 9-3 or 10-2 every year and put up consistent performance than sputter to an 11-1 season.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:51 am to LNCHBOX
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Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
That was under Gene Chizik, who got fired and that team came very close to beating a Les Miles poorly coached LSU team.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:51 am to offshoretrash
That should tell you something.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:04 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
Miles needs to understand that changes need to be made or he will not only lose a football game. Now is that going to happen? Miles only knows but his history doesn't support this. Even in his 2011 season we don't win against Ark if not for one exceptional playmaker TM.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:11 am to udtiger
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Card-carrying negatiger
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It's not the losses...it's HOW LSU has lost.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:16 am to Choctaw
That point has been "the issue" ever since the total embarrassment at the NC game...
but our coach does not seem to feel it.
I guess $ 4MM a year insulates you from embarrassment.
but our coach does not seem to feel it.
I guess $ 4MM a year insulates you from embarrassment.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:17 am to udtiger
We desperately need a new coach. Gus was able to take an auburn team that won 0 conference games the year before to a nc appearance with a db playing qb. Just imagine what he, or a coach like him, would do with the talent we have. I've been saying this for a while but now that the game has finally moved past him people agree, we have a mentally handicapped head coach
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:18 am to cybertiger53
quote:I used to call this "Les Miles games". Where we find a way to play down to our competition and make games closer than they have to be. But now, it's gotten to the point where we don't even know what is going on.
Miles needs to understand that changes need to be made or he will not only lose a football game. Now is that going to happen? Miles only knows but his history doesn't support this. Even in his 2011 season we don't win against Ark if not for one exceptional playmaker TM.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:20 am to udtiger
This is nothing new, I have been saying this since 2009.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
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Auburn went 0-8 in the SEC, then won the SEC the next year. They got their doors blown off a couple times that first year as well.
You do realize after that year they hired a new coach right!?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:23 am to Choctaw
41-7... miles embarrassed on TV once again
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:25 am to udtiger
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It's not the losses...it's HOW LSU has lost.
Look at many of our Wins. They are hard to watch and won only by pure luck at times. Yet, they are wins so most ignore how we looked and the plays we called. Then they are surprised this year. Most of us have been saying we have always looked like this we just don't have luck, talent and mediocre to terrible coaching on the other teams' side.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:26 am to udtiger
The losses suck, but should not have been totally unexpected (especially at AU). The blowouts have been surprising even with a young team. But the thing that pisses me off more than anything is that appears to be no desire to make any adjustments whatsoever from game to game.
Against Wisc. the run defense was shite. But instead of trying something new (pre-snap movement with the DL, Beckwith the full time starter at MLB), LSU has continued with the same game plan with the same results.
On offense it is clear to anyone watching expert and not, that LSU has looked better out of a more shotgun oriented, spread attack. Harris (who surprise surprise is not the savior) has almost exclusively played from this type of set in limited action. Taking that all into account, what does LSU do Sat.? Stick Harris under center where he is clearly uncomfortable.
Against Wisc. the run defense was shite. But instead of trying something new (pre-snap movement with the DL, Beckwith the full time starter at MLB), LSU has continued with the same game plan with the same results.
On offense it is clear to anyone watching expert and not, that LSU has looked better out of a more shotgun oriented, spread attack. Harris (who surprise surprise is not the savior) has almost exclusively played from this type of set in limited action. Taking that all into account, what does LSU do Sat.? Stick Harris under center where he is clearly uncomfortable.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:34 am to cybertiger53
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Miles needs to understand that changes need to be made or he will not only lose a football game. Now is that going to happen? Miles only knows but his history doesn't support this. Even in his 2011 season we don't win against Ark if not for one exceptional playmaker TM
The Ark. game is not the one that stands out here, but rather the SECCG against UGA. LSU had ZERO first downs in the first half. If not for a few bad plays by UGA, coupled with Mathieu's exceptional returns, that first half could have gotten really ugly.
For the first time since Miles went to this ultra-conservative offense (2009), he doesn't have an outstanding defense to keep the game close until the offensive lucks into a big play or wears the opponent down in the 4th. 2013 was a complete aberration on offense. Does that mean that LSU is waiting until they get a 5th year Sr. QB, two all-conf WR and the best RB in 15 years to come out of their shell again on offense? That could be another 10 years, if ever!!!!
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:37 am to udtiger
Lose Ugly, 2014
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:54 am to Tiger Voodoo
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See Saban's defending NC squad getting blown out by 30 to Georgia in 04 in his 5th year as an example. And that team wasn't nearly as young as this year. The defending SEC Champ team in 02 was blown out by Auburn and Bama. Those were ugly ugly losses. Even the UT bowl game was pretty bad for a coach that is supposedly unbeatable with a month to prepare (last year's OU squad would beg to differ). Hell, the 01 SEC Championship team itself had the most complete beatdown I've ever seen in Tiger Stadium against Spurrier and Grossman. We aren't a good team right now. Bad teams get beat by good teams. Bad. Unfortunately, the West is filled with good teams this year, Iincluding the two that "embarassed" us. It likely won't be the last time it happens this year either. The test is how the team responds and builds toward next year when the rest of the West is rebuilding. We'll see then if the doomsdayers are right.
Very true...forgot about those...almost lost the opener in 2004 to Oregon State...Jamarcus Russell saved our bacon in that one along with OSU kicker not being able to kick...Yes, we were beat down a few times in the Saban era. During Arnsparger's rein in the 80's I don't remember being "beat down"; just losing games we shouldn't have lost.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:59 am to cybertiger53
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Even in his 2011 season we don't win against Ark if not for one exceptional playmaker TM.
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