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So, Ebola has a 50 - 70 % mortality rate in West Africa, but 0 % in US?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:42 am
Hmmmmmm?
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 10:44 am
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:43 am to mizzoukills
Yeah, so?
ETA: The average life expectancy in Liberia is 54 years old. In the U.S. it's 79.8 years old.
What is your point??
ETA: The average life expectancy in Liberia is 54 years old. In the U.S. it's 79.8 years old.
What is your point??
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:44 am to mizzoukills
Go to a hospital and Africa. Then go to one here.
Mystery solved.
Mystery solved.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:48 am to mizzoukills
quote:
Ebola has a 50 - 70 % mortality rate in West Africa, but 0 % in US
With all this information coming out about Ebola, it's not quite as scary as it used to be.
Don't get me wrong, it's terrible and I would never want it or want anyone else to get it. I just used to think it was like a disease where you were guaranteed to die and die instantly.
Guess I was just ignant.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:49 am to mizzoukills
We have the means to keep people alive here. I'd imagine that if it became an epidemic the mortality rate would increase.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:50 am to burdman
quote:I think I saw that movie, too. Wasn't Samuel L. Jackson in it?
I just used to think it was like a disease where you were guaranteed to die and die instantly.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:50 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Go to a hospital and Africa. Then go to one here.
Most Africans don't have access to medical care as we know it here. Countries like Liberia have medical care that is orders of magnitude worse than Nigeria, much less the US.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:50 am to inelishaitrust
quote:
We have the means to keep people alive here. I'd imagine that if it became an epidemic the mortality rate would increase.
I wonder how many patients the US can treat at a given time...
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:59 am to mizzoukills
A "hospital" in Liberia is basically a waiting room for the graveyard.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:00 am to wickowick
So when media/doctors indicate that this version of Ebola Zaire has a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate, that stat isn't necessarily concrete, right?
They make it seem like Ebola has a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate period, regardless of wherever the outbreak were to occur.
However, that clearly isn't the case. For example, this strain may have a 1 - 10 percent mortality rate in the US, versus a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate in Liberia, versus an 80 - 90 percent mortality in a shittier country...right?
They make it seem like Ebola has a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate period, regardless of wherever the outbreak were to occur.
However, that clearly isn't the case. For example, this strain may have a 1 - 10 percent mortality rate in the US, versus a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate in Liberia, versus an 80 - 90 percent mortality in a shittier country...right?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:02 am to mizzoukills
quote:So you think 2 or 3 cases in the U.S. is a valid sample number to base your thread's statistics upon?
For example, this strain may have a 1 - 10 percent mortality rate in the US
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:05 am to mizzoukills
Americans are not a special people.
You didn't build it.
A black man was killed in Ferguson, Mo.
I apoligize for the mistakes that we have made.
You didn't build it.
A black man was killed in Ferguson, Mo.
I apoligize for the mistakes that we have made.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:11 am to mizzoukills
with no care at all, its >90% mortality
with some basic supportive care like that available in some underdeveloped countries (hydration, respiratory and nutritional support etc), 50-70% may be more possible.
With full, modern ICU care, there are no legit statistics, but I'd guess we could reduce the number to the 10-20% range. Of course, even large hospitals in major US cities have a limited number of beds that can provide that level of care. Most ICUs can handle around a dozen patients. In a true epidemic, those resources will be quickly exhausted.
with some basic supportive care like that available in some underdeveloped countries (hydration, respiratory and nutritional support etc), 50-70% may be more possible.
With full, modern ICU care, there are no legit statistics, but I'd guess we could reduce the number to the 10-20% range. Of course, even large hospitals in major US cities have a limited number of beds that can provide that level of care. Most ICUs can handle around a dozen patients. In a true epidemic, those resources will be quickly exhausted.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:13 am to LSURussian
Give me a break, Russian. No need to enter this thread as a penis gobbler.
It was an arbitrary example and you know it.
It was an arbitrary example and you know it.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:16 am to mizzoukills
quote:
So, Ebola has a 50 - 70 % mortality rate in West Africa, but 0 % in US?
Because the amount of cases in the US can be counted on one hand. The cases in West Africa are legion.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:28 am to mizzoukills
quote:Facility and medical care likely has a large impact on that percentage, but at this time, our sample size is too small.
So when media/doctors indicate that this version of Ebola Zaire has a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate, that stat isn't necessarily concrete, right?
You can't make a determination off of 2-3 cases. We have never had a large scale outbreak here, and hopefully we never will.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:35 am to mizzoukills
We know that there was a higher mortality rate among Native Americans for the diseases that Europeans brought over here than there was among Euopreans. The two American doctors who survived it are of European descent, while one of their colleagues, a Liberian doctor who was treated with the same drugs they were treated with, did not survive. It's counterintuitive to think that Europeans would have a higher survival rate than Africans, but I guess that's a possibility.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:48 am to TigerRad
TigerRad
Great post
quote:
with no care at all, its >90% mortality with some basic supportive care like that available in some underdeveloped countries (hydration, respiratory and nutritional support etc), 50-70% may be more possible. With full, modern ICU care, there are no legit statistics, but I'd guess we could reduce the number to the 10-20% range. Of course, even large hospitals in major US cities have a limited number of beds that can provide that level of care. Most ICUs can handle around a dozen patients. In a true epidemic, those resources will be quickly exhausted.
Great post
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:55 am to mizzoukills
quote:What shithole could be worse than Liberia? North Korea? It doesn't get any shittier than Liberia.
versus a 50 - 70 percent mortality rate in Liberia, versus an 80 - 90 percent mortality in a shittier country...right?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:59 am to mizzoukills
quote:
Great post
i do my best to stick to facts and well-supported suppositions on the rare occasion that I post on the poli board
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