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Herron, Bain, Gilmore not playing much

Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:57 am
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@DellengerAdv: Transcribing tape. Pretty clear at what's holding back the 3 #LSU RFr DTs from playing: Technique, att. to detail, knowledge of the defense


Bad recruiting? Not getting coached up? Do we blame those 3?

How does 1 5 star and 2 4 star DLine guys not contribute in 2 years. Plus they all played in those high school all American games.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:00 am to
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How does 1 5 star and 2 4 star DLine guys not contribute in 2 years.
You already answered your own question with Dellenger's quote: "Technique, att. to detail, knowledge of the defense".
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79114 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:00 am to
i still don't get it.

let's not pretend that the DT's that are playing are using proper techniques, etc. we are getting gashed for a reason up front, proper technique or not.

i say just rotate em in, see how they perform.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28245 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:01 am to
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knowledge of the defense


Honest question, how difficult is it MENTALLY to play defensive tackle?
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:01 am to
or some just take time to develop. I know...mind blown
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:02 am to
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or some just take time to develop. I know...mind blown


Yet valentine was ready to contribute from day 1 without even being at a practice.
Posted by davidlsu
Member since Jan 2008
2958 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:02 am to
Don't kill me, but maybe brick haley isn't all that great of a dline coach? Dline has been weak for a while now.... Just saying
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:03 am to
Have never been impressed with Haley's coaching techniques. Good recruiter, just don't see any good examples of his coaching on the field.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:03 am to
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Yet valentine was ready to contribute from day 1 without even being at a practice.


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:04 am to
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How does 1 5 star and 2 4 star DLine guys not contribute in 2 years.
They should not even be playing right now. Our starters now should have been backups this year.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28245 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:04 am to
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or some just take time to develop. I know...mind blown


What better way to "develop" than actually playing in games? It would be one thing if these guys couldn't see the field because they would be taking snaps away from players like Lavalais, Williams, Dorsey, Mingo, Brockers, etc. It's another thing when they can't see playing time on one of the weakest LSU D-Lines in maybe 15 years.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8669 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:05 am to
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Dline has been weak for a while now.... Just saying

What do you mean by "a while"?
Posted by davidlsu
Member since Jan 2008
2958 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:05 am to
Since what 2012?
After we lost Nevis, then brockers we just haven't had that disruption.. Am I wrong?
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:06 am to
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Yet valentine was ready to contribute from day 1 without even being at a practice


According to who? The same people that said all the other DTs would play as soon as they stepped on campus?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:06 am to
Too many early departures is forcing guys to play too early.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:08 am to
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What better way to "develop" than actually playing in games?


I don't know about Herron (someone will have to inform me of his mins), but Gilmore and Bain are getting some PT. Maybe it's not as significant as you want, but they are getting in. Gilmore made a great play to close out the 1st half against NMSU. The potential is there with him. I'm just saying be patient...they are just RS frosh.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:09 am to
Just sucks to see ole miss and miss st dominate on DLine while we are having 2 down years
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28335 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:09 am to
Something ain't right......if Haley can't reach these guys we need someone who can. It's either talent isn't being evaluated properly on the d-line or they're not being taught in a manner that is having any effect. I lean to say it's the latter since its guys who were recruited by pretty much all of the big boys, and not marginal takes.
Hell the technique the guys who play is pretty bad. Hunter still can't set an edge, and gets blocked out of the play much too often.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8669 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:18 am to
I think you mean Brockers, then Logan in 2012. Nevis' last year was 2010. But hey I see what you mean, even though Ego and Anthony Johnson were not bad by any means.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:20 am to
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Yet valentine was ready to contribute from day 1 without even being at a practice.

Anyone asserting this is an idiot at best.
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