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Predict: Will Aaron Rodgers Ever Win Another Super Bowl?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:21 am
I say no.
He's overrated IMO (as the responses to this post will probably illustrate). That's not to say he's not good - he is. But the people - and there are many - who say he's the best QB in the league are delusional. I'll go on record saying he has won his one and only Super Bowl.
InBeforeOLine
He's overrated IMO (as the responses to this post will probably illustrate). That's not to say he's not good - he is. But the people - and there are many - who say he's the best QB in the league are delusional. I'll go on record saying he has won his one and only Super Bowl.
InBeforeOLine
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:23 am to Patrick_Bateman
With the way QBs can play at a high level past early 30s, yes. He has ar least another 6 year window or so
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:28 am to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
He's overrated IMO (as the responses to this post will probably illustrate
Nice logic. I'm not wrong and if you disagree with me it proves my point.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:29 am to Patrick_Bateman
quote:lol
overrated
quote:I love that someone watches a few games every weekend and is therefore the authority on QBs.
But the people - and there are many - who say he's the best QB in the league are delusional.
QB Rating since 2008, his first year as a starter...
2008: 93.8 - 6th
2009: 103.2 - 4th
2010: 101.2 - 3rd (Superbowl win)
2011: 122.5 - 1st (45 TDs, 6 INTs)
2012: 108.0 - 1st (39 TDs, 8 INTs)
2013 until injury: 104.9 - 5th
A little blurb from Wikipedia...
quote:I never took you for a troll.
Rodgers is the NFL's all-time career leader in passer rating during the regular season with a rating of 104.9 and second all-time in the postseason with a rating of 103.1 (among passers with at least 1,500 and 150 pass attempts, respectively). He currently is the only quarterback to have a career passer rating of over 100.0 in the regular season as well as having the highest touchdown to interception ratio in NFL history. He also holds the league's lowest career passing interception percentage for quarterbacks during the regular season at 1.8 percent and the single-season passer rating record of 122.5.
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:31 am to Patrick_Bateman
If I can pick any quarterback to play this season with, I'm taking Rodgers second behind Peyton.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:32 am to boom roasted
Boom!
Roasted!
Roasted!
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:38 am to boom roasted
His TD to INT ratio is the most impressive stat, IMO.
193 TD
53 INT
3.6 to 1
193 TD
53 INT
3.6 to 1
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:42 am to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
He's overrated IMO
Nah.. Hes good. His Super Bowl run and then the first 14 games of the 2011 season is some of the best QB play in NFL history.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:51 am to Patrick_Bateman
Rodgers passer rating is artifically elevated by the fact that he takes so many sacks. Other QB's like Manning and Brees get rid of the ball, which leads to more interceptions and a lower TD:INT ratio. But is also leads to a higher 3rd down conversion percentage, a far, far lower sack percentage, and ultimately more wins because you have to take chances in the NFL to succeed. It is telling that Rodgers QBR rating does not reflect his dominance in the passer rating. Of the top 10 QBR ratings for 2006-2013, Manning has 6 of the top 10, Brady has 2, Brees has 1, and Rodgers has 1. Rodgers has only led the league in QBR one time since taking over, and that was the year he won the MVP in 2011 (the highest rated QBR quarterback has won the MVP every year since 2007 except when utterly robbed by a running back in 2012). Manning's sack rate is half that of Rodgers. You have to look at more advanced metrics that the very flawed passer rating metric. If you do not like ESPN's QBR, there are other advanced metrics such as from pro football focus that also back up what I am saying.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:56 am to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
He's overrated IMO
LOL this is beyond retarded
if I had to win a game I'm going with Rodgers anytime and everytime
GB will win at least one more SB with him, he's one of the best ever
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:05 pm to Patrick_Bateman
It is difficult to predict how teams will manage the salary cap going forward, and that will have a huge impact on the competitiveness of teams. There is only so much money you can have tied up in a QB and fill the roster without some glaring weakness. It will take a lot of luck, or skill, in filling roster spots with players on their first contracts for teams to win Super Bowls with high priced QBs. It is more likely that future Super Bowl winners will be teams with good QBs in their first contracts who haven't sucked up too much cap space.
I have hard time imagining that Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning will win another Super Bowl. Their teams would need to plug weaknesses with draft choices to have a chance since doing it via free agency is pretty much impossible financially. The alternative is to tear down and rebuild, but I can't see their teams' managements having the patience to go that route given the remaining time in their respective careers.
I have hard time imagining that Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning will win another Super Bowl. Their teams would need to plug weaknesses with draft choices to have a chance since doing it via free agency is pretty much impossible financially. The alternative is to tear down and rebuild, but I can't see their teams' managements having the patience to go that route given the remaining time in their respective careers.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:11 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:
It is more likely that future Super Bowl winners will be teams with good QBs in their first contracts who haven't sucked up too much cap space.
I agree with this. If you look at the super bowl champions since 1999, only two teams had a QB making elite QB money, both of them Mannings. Peyton in 2006 and Eli in 2011. Drew was still on his first, lower salary contract in 2009, Brady did not get his big payday until after their last championship, and Rodgers was not yet making elite money in 2010. Of course, Roethlisberger still doesn't make elite money, I don't think, but he certainly did not through 2008. Wilson makes pennies compared to these guys.
The elite QB contract is a massive obstacle to overcome and requires a great deal of luck and great drafts to do it.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:18 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
InBeforeOLine
It's what kills them every year, that and no consistent running game.
Also, the 49ers seem to be the GB achilles heel.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:18 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
He's overrated IMO
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:25 pm to SabiDojo
Just orchestrated a nice little drive there against CHI.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:30 pm to goldenbadger08
Your little tears tasted sweet last week.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:30 pm to goldenbadger08
Go Cutler
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:31 pm to Patrick_Bateman
I think so. I think he ends up with 2 more before he is done.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:31 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Not unless GB's defense substantially improves
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:37 pm to boom roasted
quote:Wasn't meant to be a troll. Basically, I'm just saying that he's not the best QB in the league IMO. Obviously, I didn't say it in the best way (or provide any facts to support my belief). Just stating an opinion.
I never took you for a troll.
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