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Billing for rape: Louisiana rape victims often face hefty bills for medical care
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:28 pm
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She was questioned, prodded and photographed over the course of six hours. Nurses collected samples of tissue and fluid from her mouth and her body. They took her urine, drew her blood and bagged her clothes. They offered her drugs to prevent pregnancy, HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. Then, they led her to a private shower and sent her home.
Her life, she felt, was now divided into two eras: Pre-rape and post-rape. Eight days into the shock of this new reality, she received a letter she couldn't comprehend.
The cost of some of the medical services she received totaled nearly $2,000, it said. Insurance would pay $1,400. She would owe the remaining $600 -- for her share of the cost of two HIV drugs and two other medications designed to stave off side-effects of those drugs.
She folded the papers, stuffed them in her purse and tried to calm down. A few days later, another bill would arrive, showing an additional $1,700 in charges for her care, including an $860 fee for her visit to the emergency room.
"You never really think, 'Is rape covered by insurance?'" the New Orleans woman said. NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune does not generally identify victims of sexual crimes.
The letter from the hospital was no aberration. In Louisiana, victims of sex crimes often face paralyzing bills for forensic medical exams and related care, even though state and federal guidelines require that many of these services be provided at no cost to the victim. And there's little continuity in how rape victims are treated from parish to parish and hospital to hospital.
While the state's Crime Victims Reparations Fund does permit victims to apply for reimbursement for some medical expenses, there are strict limitations regarding who can qualify, including a requirement that the victim file a police report. Research by the U.S. Department of Justice indicates nearly two-thirds of sex assault victims don't ever go to law enforcement.
Victim advocates worry that prohibitive costs will only increase the likelihood that rape victims will suffer quietly without seeking the medical assistance they may need.
"Sexual assault is already one of the most underreported crimes, period," said Amanda Tonkovich, a counselor at New Orleans Family Justice Center and coordinator of the New Orleans Sexual Assault Response Team. "Even if people don't want to report, we want them to come to the hospital and make sure they're OK, medically speaking."
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At Interim LSU, where trained nurses see about 20 to 25 sexual assault patients per month, nurses until recently were instructed to reassure victims they would not be billed. Although the public hospital was not required by law to do so, it for years absorbed the costs of these exams and all the related medical expenses, area sexual assault victim advocates said.
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Louisiana is one of only six states that look to local parishes and counties to pay for the exams, according to a report by AEquitas, an organization that provides training, information and technical help to prosecutors in sexual assault cases. Thirty-two other states pay through their state victim compensation funds.
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These are just snippets and I would suggest you read the entire article.
Morally, the idea of rape victims being forced to pay for exams and rape kits is just an obscenity to me but I know that healthcare is not free and it's a precious commodity using resources, time and money.
Thoughts?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:34 pm to Sentrius
It seems horrible to bill a rape victim for their treatment, but do we bill victims of assault or hit and runs for their treatment?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Make the rapist pay.
Agreed although good luck actually getting them to pay.
@ OP - interesting question about what should be done. Not sure if it was on the PB or some other site, but what about the 15 year old kid that was "raped" by his female teacher, she got preggo and had the kid. Then all of a sudden, she hits him with back child support. Slippery slope all around.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Make the rapist pay.
Once someone is convicted of rape a percentage of their assets should be confiscated to set up a fund to pay for victims treatment.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:02 pm to Sentrius
Maybe this has already been covered in this thread, what if a crime victim, not a rape, is injured during the crime and needs medical attention, does that victim have to pay for the medical attention or does he expect other taxpayers to pay for it?
What if the medical services are needed by the police in order to properly charge the attacker? Does that make a difference in who pays?
I don't know the answers to the above questions. I think all crime victims should be treated similarly. If a non-rape victim has to pay for any medical services he requires, then a rape victim should to. If not, then no.
What if the medical services are needed by the police in order to properly charge the attacker? Does that make a difference in who pays?
I don't know the answers to the above questions. I think all crime victims should be treated similarly. If a non-rape victim has to pay for any medical services he requires, then a rape victim should to. If not, then no.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:08 pm to Radiojones
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Make the rapist pay.
Once someone is convicted of rape a percentage of their assets should be confiscated to set up a fund to pay for victims treatment.
or as part of their sentence they have to do trustee work and the $$$ goes to pay off the expenses.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:16 pm to Sentrius
It sucks. It sucks for any victim to pay for their medical treatment. I dislike separating rape victims from other victims.
I would gladly give to a charity that paid for treating crime victims.
I would gladly give to a charity that paid for treating crime victims.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:16 pm to LSURussian
The key is that the hospital visit is required for evidence. And charging women who were just attacked is pretty awful for a civilized society.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:18 pm to Sentrius
IMO:
For victims with insurance, this could be a good example of billing insurance only and not balance billing the victim. For those without insurance, this is an example of a good use of hospital charity funding.
For victims with insurance, this could be a good example of billing insurance only and not balance billing the victim. For those without insurance, this is an example of a good use of hospital charity funding.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:18 pm to Pinecone Repair
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It sucks. It sucks for any victim to pay for their medical treatment. I dislike separating rape victims from other victims.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:27 pm to Sentrius
It sucks but rape is just another terrible thing that one person does to another that has a lot of negative repercussions to the victim. Replace rape with shooting, stabbing, drunk driving, or any number of acts of violence or harm where a victim is powerless but requires medical attention and the same scenario plays out where the victim still needs to pay for the time and money spent trying to help them.
The alternative is not going to the hospital, but it's still the choice of the victim. They can choose to deal with it as best they can quietly and with as little out-of-pocket cost as possible, or they can go to a hospital and get treated, same as anyone who is injured or requires medical attention.
Sue the attacker if he's arrested to get compensated.
The alternative is not going to the hospital, but it's still the choice of the victim. They can choose to deal with it as best they can quietly and with as little out-of-pocket cost as possible, or they can go to a hospital and get treated, same as anyone who is injured or requires medical attention.
Sue the attacker if he's arrested to get compensated.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:31 pm to Sentrius
If the state requires it, the state should pay for it. If the victim requests it, the victim should pay for it.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:33 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:There were other medical services rendered in the case described in this thread which did not involve gathering evidence. I can justify the medical services required to 'gather evidence' be paid for out of the police's investigative budget. But not for other services not involving the evidence process.
The key is that the hospital visit is required for evidence.
quote:So hospitals and doctors should provide their services for free? Is that your solution?
And charging women who were just attacked is pretty awful for a civilized society.
If someone beats you up, should "society" pay for your medical attention? That was my question above.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:33 pm to FooManChoo
The only way to possibly get justice is to go to the hospital.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:35 pm to NoHoTiger
quote:Doesn't exist.
this is an example of a good use of hospital charity funding.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:37 pm to Pinecone Repair
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It sucks. It sucks for any victim to pay for their medical treatment. I dislike separating rape victims from other victims.
I would gladly give to a charity that paid for treating crime victims.
+1, especially rape
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:42 pm to Pinecone Repair
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I dislike separating rape victims from other victims.
Agreed. There are crimes that are just as traumatic as rape and they should be included in this discussion now that I've had some time to think about it.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:52 pm to Sentrius
Usually, upon conviction, the perp has a fine tacked on to their sentence. Sometimes, it seems like an arbitrary amount (ex. $2514.39), but in reality, that fine covers victim medical expenses,transporting after arrest,etc. That is in addition to court costs,attorney fees,and yes,housing of said arrestee. If it's court ordered, the victim is not responsible for the hospital costs.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 5:55 pm to Sentrius
It's not horrible to charge someone for services rendered.
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