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In other tech news, how long before a detector comes out for this?

Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:30 pm
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Still, you know that cop may be checking your speed. Soon, however, he might be using that radar gun to check whether you're texting. A company called ComSonics is working on a radar gun that can pick up radio frequencies that identify texting drivers.
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What's fascinating about this technology is that it can allegedly distinguish between texting and calling. In ComSonics' home state of Virginia, for example, texting and driving is illegal, whereas talking on the phone and driving is not (for adult drivers).






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Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:35 pm to
How would it differentiate passengers from drivers?
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:38 pm to
Read this a few weeks back...

2 issues:

How would it differentiate between drivers and passengers?

How would it know whether you were receiving or sending?


Seems like a shite ton of grey area that can be easily contested. Plus, judges have ruled that cops cannot make you unlock your phone for them.

Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:40 pm to
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How would it differentiate passengers from drivers?


Don't see how it could. But it's gonna be a tough argument to make if you're flying solo
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:44 pm to
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if you're flying solo
Then like 81 said, I'm receiving texts. Also, it can't pick up iMessages, just SMS if it's only picking up radio signals.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:44 pm to
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Don't see how it could. But it's gonna be a tough argument to make if you're flying solo



Dunno, unless I'm wrong, it's not like a radar detector that is sending out a beam to bounce off of your car.... To detect the signal, I would imagine the sensor will have to cast a much wider range, thus, "how do you know it was my car and not the one next to me?" "Here, look at my phone, there's no text message" (bc I deleted it while you were pulling me over
Posted by MamouTiger65
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:55 pm to
How would it handle cars with built-in Bluetooth? All of my text messages come in but are handled hands free through the car.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:02 pm to
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How would it handle cars with built-in Bluetooth? All of my text messages come in but are handled hands free through the car.



That too

Im as against assholes who can't drive using their phones as the next guy, but this will be a clusterfrick.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:07 pm to
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All of my text messages come in but are handled hands free through the car.


Giving time for this to become more mainstream is the obvious answer to this "problem". I think the other issue is as others have said, how can they tell if you were sending or receiving? This reminds of those airport scanners that aren't really that much more effective but made a company with a government contract a shite ton of money.

And presumably it's detecting normal text messages, so messaging apps that use data like iMessage or Whatsapp wouldn't show up. If this becomes moderately effective all it will do is kill texting and chase people to internet messaging.
Posted by MamouTiger65
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:20 pm to
It seems like it would be a headache for a cop to try to give this kind of ticket out. At least if you stop someone for speeding you know they were speeding. In this case there are too many ways where you would be stopping someone where they are doing nothing illegal at all. I'd guess that if you scanned the road at any given time you could stop half the cars in site for sending or receiving messages. Maybe having another excuse to stop random cars is the real purpose, I just don't see these tickets holding up.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:32 pm to
I'm guessing something like this would be used to supplement evidence in observable offenses, not to give cops a reason to pull over every car that triggers the detector. However, if the detector goes off and a cop can see the driver using her phone, probably makes for a stronger case, especially in those states that have specific laws against texting vs. universal laws against operating a phone while driving. Not sure how easy it is to prove on the spot that someone who was observed holding a phone in the car was violating a specific anti-texting law.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:39 am to
This is retarded. As others have pointed out hands free texting apps are built into cars now and apps like imessage and hangouts don't use traditional sms signals but regular data instead.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 6:44 am to
What is it actually detecting, you typing or the text actually going out? Seems like unless you catch them at the exact second it goes out, something like that would be useless
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