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Fall is upon us - how much further away from the Sun are we now?

Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:47 am
Because temperature sure has plummeted.

Who wold have thought a slight variation in the distance from the Sun would make such a change in climate?

I'm glad Earth has kept the exact same planetary orbit for the lat 5 Billion years so that we can nail down global warming to cars, weed-eaters and flatulence.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:48 am to
What in the frick are you about?
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Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:49 am to
I ain't getting rid of my F250 brah. Get over it.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:58 am to
I bet 20+% of people think that's the cause of seasons.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:58 am to
We are actually getting closer to the sun right now, and we will be closest in early January. So, the variation in the orbit makes very little difference.

It is cooler in winter for the same reason it is cooler in the morning and evening than mid-day. A square foot of sunlight is spread over an area larger than a square foot (and so does less heating) as the angle it reaches the earth's surface changes.

All this is beside the fact that climate covers a period of time longer than a season.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:58 am to
quote:

how much further away from the Sun are we now?
Uh oh.

Further than Australia will be in December?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:00 am to
It's cooler today, where I am. Climate change isn't happening!
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:03 am to
Do you mean the Earth as a whole being further away, or our surface of the Earth being further away from the Sun relative to other parts of the Earth in this time of the year?

Cause it's both.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Do you mean the Earth as a whole being further away, or our surface of the Earth being further away from the Sun relative to other parts of the Earth in this time of the year?

Cause it's both.

You mean neither.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:13 am to
Oh, the axis too! I'm glad that's been exactly the same for the last 5 Billion years.

Thanks for the reminder erbody
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Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:14 am to
So how many miles closer to the sun raises the temp by 1 degree?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:15 am to
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Cause it's both
Fwiw, aphelion was July 3rd.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:18 am to
Closer in the winter and farther in the summer.

Norther hemisphere FTMFW
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:21 am to
BTW, which one of these is correct..

From NASA:


From NASA:

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:25 am to
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BTW, which one of these is correct..
both?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:29 am to
So our orbit is both a football and a basketball at the same time? How can that be?

Maybe in the first pic the orbital plane is altered just perfectly enough that, in a 2D representation, it appears circular.

Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:40 am to
Wait a minute.. what the heck is this?!?!

Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:50 am to
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So our orbit is both a football and a basketball at the same time? How can that be?

Wtf? You realize the second picture is a 3/4 overhead view, don't you?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:53 am to
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So our orbit is both a football
I think the two are trying to schematically represent different things.

Earth's orbit is slightly oval. Something like a 4M mile diff aphelion-perihelion. But I don't think either was necessarily trying to represent that. The second was intended to represent a slightly tangential POV.

Same orbit. Different perspective.

Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Wait a minute.. what the heck is this?!?!


Dig that crazy Uranus axis. I bet the agw kooks there go ape every 42 years.
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