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The Miles File...My take on our head coach

Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:15 am
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:15 am
1) If he falls in love with the character of a player, and thinks that the player is reasonably talented, he will ride that player regardless of the on-field results (or lack of results). It is his man, and he sticks with his man. Many believe this is because Bo did this for him in his days at Michigan, and that may be, but regardless of why, it is his way.

2) He has living room charm with the players and player families that count - big time talent. As such, in most years, he will have more talent and depth than 95% of the teams he faces (Thus the best record in come-from-behind wins in the nation, due to depth in the last 3/8ths of the game, and subpar performance for the first 5/8ths of the games).

3) He has very slow executive processing speed in real-time. He is a slow, but thorough thinker, who is much better at planning and big picture thinking than anything that requires quick on-the-field decision making. Ergo all of the in-game miscues.

4) He has a very different way of talking. It actually makes a lot more sense on paper in print than when listened to audibly. It is quirky, but again, we have to realize that it works for the players and coaches, so those with strong linguistic and standard grammar skills need to just deal with it. It works for those that matter - players, their Moms/Dads and the coaches.

5) He is slow to adapt. When a 5th grade girl realizes that a change is obvious, that is about when Miles will make the change everyone else knew should have been made much earlier. Call it hard-headedness, or whatever you want, but this is the reality in most scenarios. Exceptions do not discount the overwhelming pattern.

6) When also surrounded with strong coaches, his method works really well due to the level of talent and depth his teams have in comparison to their opponents. Recruiting is 95+% of his success formula, and his form of communication is a large part of the formula for his recruiting successes.

7) He is a poker player. He believes that he should never show tendencies and tip his "hat" until he has to. Because he has such talent and depth, it works more often than not, but frustrates the hell out of the fan base who are worn out on the boring formula.

8)He truly knows how to motivate his players. His approachable style makes his players want to light it up for him. He believes in them, and they leverage off of that belief nicely.

9)He is a program coach. He is our coach. Deal with it. After nearly 10 years, there have been few things he has been willing to change in his philosophy.

10) He is a winner. He has the best record in the SEC in his time in the league. He is our winner.

Deal with it. Love it. Love the Tigers. Or shut the eff up and move on.

Tigers.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 11:37 am
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:17 am to
It is always interesting to me that tRant posters claim to know so much. Bull crap.
Posted by Gekko
Costa Rica
Member since Nov 2010
2500 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:18 am to
Have a down vote for your efforts
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:21 am to
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10) He is a winner. He has the best record in the SEC in his time in the league. He is our winner.

Deal with it. Love it. Love the Tigers. Or shut the eff up and move on.




Hmmm. So you have to love the awful product Miles puts on the field over the actual team.

what a joke.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:32 am to
So basically you're saying that nothing is going to change, so get over it. Miles is not bigger than LSU. He didn't build the program, he just had to oversee it. If not for LSU He would still be at a middle of the road Big 12 school. LSU is supposed to be winning national championships or be in contention. If he isn't man enough to accept that it's time to change then he needs to go. Who wouldn't want to coach here? Miles better get it in gear he is expendable
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

e has living room charm with the players and player families that count - big time talent. As such, in most years, he will have more talent and depth than 95% of the teams he faces (Thus the best record in come-from-behind wins in the nation, due to depth in the last 3/8ths of the game, and subpar performance for the first 5/8ths of the games).


Ok you lost me here. an any given cycle, Tamu, UF, Aub, UGA, Ole Miss, Bama, UGA have had higher rated classes than LSU. in 2012 we had the 6th ranked class in the sec alone. Your math doesnt add up.

This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 11:35 am
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4771 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:36 am to
Charles mcclendon isn't retired its Les.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 11:37 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:42 am to
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the awful product Miles puts on the field
Oh, shut the frick up.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:47 am to
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1) If he falls in love with the character of a player, and thinks that the player is reasonably talented, he will ride that player regardless of the on-field results
If that is the case he is putting individuals above the best interest of the program.
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2) He has living room charm with the players and player families that count - big time talent. As such, in most years, he will have more talent and depth than 95% of the teams he faces
Not this year or last year.
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3) He has very slow executive processing speed in real-time
Bad game day coach.
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5) He is slow to adapt.
Will ultimately be his downfall.
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Recruiting is 95+% of his success formula,
We sure seem to have missed on a bunch of defensive linemen and linebackers lately.
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He believes that he should never show tendencies
Our offense is the BIGGEST tendency in college football.
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9)He is a program coach. He is our coach. Deal with it. After nearly 10 years, there have been few things he has been willing to change in his philosophy.
thankful for what he has accomplished but unfortunately I think he peaked out.
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10) He is a winner. He has the best record in the SEC in his time in the league. He is our winner.
Again, I appreciate everything he has done for the program, but I think it is time for a change.
Posted by vjm41
Lake Charles, La
Member since Jan 2008
910 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:48 am to
Hires GREAT coaches and Great Recruiters. Feels the heat changes OC and we get the same result. A good Coach Nothing more. Took over the top program in the SEC with 2 SEC Championships and a NC in the previous 5 years and since that time is getting passed up by the rest of the SEC.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:49 am to
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Again, I appreciate everything he has done for the program, but I think it is time for a change.


After one loss?

I want to see people who think we need a change come up with a reasonable list of coaches available.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I want to see people who think we need a change come up with a reasonable list of coaches available
I have been a Miles defender for several years and yes, my first question to anyone who wanted Miles fired was....who is better out there?

I will turn this around and ask.....when LSU hired Miles were there better candidates available?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:02 pm to
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is getting passed up by the rest of the SEC.
These numbers must be made up then:

School (SEC wins in 2012 & 2013) Overall wins - Overall losses
Alabama (15) 24 3
Georgia (12) 20 7
South Carolina (12) 22 4
LSU (11) 20 6
Florida (10) 15 10
Texas A&M (10) 20 6
Missouri (9) 17 9
Vanderbilt (9) 18 8
Auburn (8) 15 11
Mississippi State (7) 15 11
Ole Miss (6) 15 11
Tennessee (3) 10 14
Arkansas (2) 7 17
Kentucky (0) 4 20

Wise up.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:04 pm to
tied for 4th in the SEC?

After this season we will be 6th or lower.

Miles is amazing! kooky! zany! family man!
Posted by tc5140
Member since Jul 2009
782 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:05 pm to
He is stubborn as hell, is his main downfall.
Four and a half Offensive coordinators have passed and we see the same thing's repeated regardless.

The plays ran, the fans know the play, the other team knows the play and the damn cheerleaders know the play, too Predictable.

The relentless want to run a play regardless if the defense is lined up to defend it perfectly.

If he calls a run up the middle with an I formation and the defense shows 11 in the box,an option for Les is not an option.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5001 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:12 pm to
So, Miles has won a national championship, a couple of SEC championships, an additional SEC championship appearance, another appearance in the national championships, has been winning in double digits pretty consistently, loses one game and people want him fired?

Good luck finding any successful coach who wants to come to Baton Rouge. If they're really good (better than Miles), they're already getting paid lots of money and have a sold job where they are. No coach like that would be willing to jump to a program with such a hair trigger.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

when LSU hired Miles were there better candidates available?


How about a guy that we had in house. JIMBO
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72618 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:14 pm to
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If that is the case he is putting individuals above the best interest of the program.


JJ says hi!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bad game day coach.


no brainer. crappy with player and game management. anybody can see it. sloppy with penalties aka OTFD since coming here in 2005.not very good at preparation either. the examples are glaring.

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Again, I appreciate everything he has done for the program, but I think it is time for a change.





agreed
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72618 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:16 pm to
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How about a guy that we had in house. JIMBO



yep who has as many nattys now as miles in WAAAAAAAAAAAY less time as a HC!

Problem was the BOS was scared shitless of another archer situation of promoting from within.

I would go after jimbo now though full force.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

How about a guy that we had in house. JIMBO


Thanks for that post. It demonstrates precisely how dumb the average LSU fan is.
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