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Thoughts on this trade: Calvin for LBell/Ertz/Tate
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:34 am
The trade offer is:
Team 1 gives Calvin Johnson
Team 2 gives Le'Veon Bell, Zach Ertz, and Golden Tate
Standard scoring, non-keeper league
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE (no flex)
Team 1:
QB: Brady, Cousins, Roethlisberger
RB: Ellington, Ivory, Vereen
WR: Calvin, Patterson, Michael Floyd, Malcom Floyd, DeAndre Hopkins, Reuben Randle
TE: Owen Daniels, Anthony Fasano
Team 2:
QB: Stafford, Romo, Dalton
RB: McCoy, Ball, LBell, Hill
WR: Keenan Allen, Colston, Tate, Terrance Williams, Bowe, Josh Gordon
TE: Julius Thomas, Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph
Primary question: Is this trade fair for team 1?
Team 1 gives Calvin Johnson
Team 2 gives Le'Veon Bell, Zach Ertz, and Golden Tate
Standard scoring, non-keeper league
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE (no flex)
Team 1:
QB: Brady, Cousins, Roethlisberger
RB: Ellington, Ivory, Vereen
WR: Calvin, Patterson, Michael Floyd, Malcom Floyd, DeAndre Hopkins, Reuben Randle
TE: Owen Daniels, Anthony Fasano
Team 2:
QB: Stafford, Romo, Dalton
RB: McCoy, Ball, LBell, Hill
WR: Keenan Allen, Colston, Tate, Terrance Williams, Bowe, Josh Gordon
TE: Julius Thomas, Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph
Primary question: Is this trade fair for team 1?
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Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:46 am to GOON
In my option if I was team 1, then yes I would take it
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:47 am to GOON
It depends on whether Team 1 thinks Megatron or Le'Veon will score more. TE is upgraded. WR will be inconsistent. Hopefully Floyd, Hopkins, and Tate will pan out?
Team 2 gets an even more solid team. Allen should start producing soon. Colston probably won't have another dud... Why does he have 3 QBs?
Team 2 is set whatever happens to his team.
Team 1 is still chancing all his decisions.
Team 2 gets an even more solid team. Allen should start producing soon. Colston probably won't have another dud... Why does he have 3 QBs?
Team 2 is set whatever happens to his team.
Team 1 is still chancing all his decisions.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:47 am to GOON
I think it's a fair trade. Now, if it's a smart trade is an entirely different question.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:57 am to forksup
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Why does he have 3 QBs?
2 QB league. You start 2 every week.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:58 am to Epic Cajun
quote:
Now, if it's a smart trade is an entirely different question.
Go on ...
Do you think it's not a smart trade for team 1 or team 2?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:08 pm to GOON
Basically it's Calvin for Bell , others are fluff IMO. If I'm team 1 I don't do it.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:11 pm to The Mick
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Basically it's Calvin for Bell , others are fluff IMO. If I'm team 1 I don't do it.
You think Ertz is fluff when team 1 is starting either Owen Daniels or Anthony Fasano and there's close to nothing on the WW?
Ertz is the 7th overall TE right now based on scoring in this league.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:16 pm to GOON
The difference bw ertz and Daniels (or any other mid-tier TE) at end of year will be minimal imo.
PS Daniels is coming off a 2 TD game..
PS Daniels is coming off a 2 TD game..
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:18 pm to GOON
Lol, I like how I read everything about your post except the "2" by QB. My bad
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:22 pm to forksup
quote:
Lol, I like how I read everything about your post except the "2" by QB. My bad
No problem.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:23 pm to The Mick
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Daniels is coming off a 2 TD game..
Fluke, IMO. He won't be a reliable starting option.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:24 pm to GOON
You're team 2 aren't you?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:28 pm to GOON
I don't think I'd want to rely on Patterson, Floyd, and Tate as my three Wr starters every week.
It's a fantastic trade for team 2, because they are giving up a borderline starter at rb, a wr3, and a backup te for the best Wr in fantasy. They are basically trading away bench depth for a star wr1.
For team 1, he's trading a star wr1, for a solid rb1, a wr3, and a slight upgrade at te. It's definitely a fair return for Calvin, but I'm not sure that I'd like my Wr situation after the trade.
It's a fantastic trade for team 2, because they are giving up a borderline starter at rb, a wr3, and a backup te for the best Wr in fantasy. They are basically trading away bench depth for a star wr1.
For team 1, he's trading a star wr1, for a solid rb1, a wr3, and a slight upgrade at te. It's definitely a fair return for Calvin, but I'm not sure that I'd like my Wr situation after the trade.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:32 pm to The Mick
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You're team 2 aren't you?
I am, but my nephew is team 1. And I'm honestly trying to improve us both. Here's my thinking.
I don't think he has a startable tight end on his roster and there isn't much on the WW.
I also don't like his RB corps. Ellington is injured. Vereen will be up and down based on gameplan/matchup (would be much better if this were PPR), and Ivory is probably a RB2 at best.
I think this would give him a good startable TE, a respectable RB corps with LBell and Ivory (and Ellington once he's healthy), and his WR corps should be able to take the hit.
Bottom line, he's getting a top 4 RB (based on scoring), a top 7 TE, and a WR3 for a top 1 WR.
But if this trade isn't fair to him, then I'll withdraw. I really don't want to hurt his team.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:32 pm to GOON
id take the 3 players over Calvin
Bell looks like a top 5 RB. Tate will be a top 20 WR. Ertz will only trend upward, imo.
are the rosters the teams after the trades or before?
Bell looks like a top 5 RB. Tate will be a top 20 WR. Ertz will only trend upward, imo.
are the rosters the teams after the trades or before?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:36 pm to GOON
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GOON
You definitely aren't ripping him off. It's a fair trade.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:37 pm to Lester Earl
The rosters are before the trade.
So after, the rosters would be:
Team 1:
QB: Brady, Cousins, Roethlisberger
RB: LBell, Ellington, Ivory, Vereen
WR: Tate, Patterson, Michael Floyd, Malcom Floyd, DeAndre Hopkins, Reuben Randle
TE: Zach Ertz, Owen Daniels, Anthony Fasano
Team 2:
QB: Stafford, Romo, Dalton
RB: McCoy, Ball, Hill
WR: Calvin, Keenan Allen, Colston, Terrance Williams, Bowe, Josh Gordon
TE: Julius Thomas, Kyle Rudolph
So after, the rosters would be:
Team 1:
QB: Brady, Cousins, Roethlisberger
RB: LBell, Ellington, Ivory, Vereen
WR: Tate, Patterson, Michael Floyd, Malcom Floyd, DeAndre Hopkins, Reuben Randle
TE: Zach Ertz, Owen Daniels, Anthony Fasano
Team 2:
QB: Stafford, Romo, Dalton
RB: McCoy, Ball, Hill
WR: Calvin, Keenan Allen, Colston, Terrance Williams, Bowe, Josh Gordon
TE: Julius Thomas, Kyle Rudolph
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:07 pm to GOON
I made a trade before the season where I gave up Calvin Johnson for L Bell, Michael Floyd, and Terrence West. This was before Tate got hurt. I also had DT88, (auction league). I probably could have given up DT88 at the time. I kind of wish I would have.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:08 pm to GOON
You're overvaluating ertz imo. Why are so high on him?
PS team 1 definitely neds a RB though
PS team 1 definitely neds a RB though
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 1:12 pm
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