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More interceptor cell towers found, this time in DC.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:38 am
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:38 am
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ESD America, the makers of a secure phone that originally made public the existence of mysterious “interceptor” cell stations in the U.S., tells VentureBeat there are over a dozen more near the Senate and the White House.
CEO Les Goldsmith said, “It’s highly unlikely that federal law enforcement would be using mobile interceptors near the Senate.”
“My suspicion,” he said, “is that it is a foreign entity.”
In the course of doing its business in selling and maintaining its Cryptophone 500 phones — secure mobile phones for clients who need and can afford military-grade security — ESD America said it has randomly discovered the existence of at least 18 interceptor cells in the D.C. area. Fifteen are in downtown Washington, including several very near the Senate and the White House, plus another three in northern Virginia.
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Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:50 am to wickowick
Lets spend more money in Iraq and frisk granny in the airport. The people we have in charge of this government scares me to death.
I guess this is what you get when our government is more concerned about social justice/issues, rather than the security of our nation.
I guess this is what you get when our government is more concerned about social justice/issues, rather than the security of our nation.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:56 am to wickowick
This is disturbing.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:59 am to wickowick
How would a foreign entity to about setting up cell towers? Don't you need permits and whatnot for that stuff?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:08 am to wickowick
100% chance it is our own government.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:08 am to PrimeTime Money
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How would a foreign entity to about setting up cell towers? Don't you need permits and whatnot for that stuff?
The article says that some are as small as briefcase sized, but one would think that if they were foreign that the Feds would be able to detect them as soon as they are powered on..
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:32 am to wickowick
If the government detects them do you think it would shut them down or use them to try and determine who was responsible? The moment the government shuts one down the party responsible would know it had been discovered. If the government can determine who is responsible they can also use that knowledge to pass them disinformation.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:06 am to wickowick
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The article says that some are as small as briefcase sized, but one would think that if they were foreign that the Feds would be able to detect them as soon as they are powered on..
Wat
They are listening devices that pick up EM emissions.
I'm kinda curious as to how they found any.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:09 am to wickowick
Must be the Tea Party plotting to overthrow Fed.gov
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:10 am to Volvagia
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I'm kinda curious as to how they found any.
It has to do with *how* the device intercepts the data.
It apparently forces the phone's signal down to 2G, which is far less secure than 3G, 4G, LTE, etc., then tries to grab the data on board.
If you have certain towers which are forcing phones down to 2G, someone who knows what they're looking for should be able to detect what tower the phone is connected to once the signal goes to 2G.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:15 am to polizei11
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100% chance it is our own government.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:16 am to teke184
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It has to do with *how* the device intercepts the data. It apparently forces the phone's signal down to 2G, which is far less secure than 3G, 4G, LTE, etc., then tries to grab the data on board. If you have certain towers which are forcing phones down to 2G, someone who knows what they're looking for should be able to detect what tower the phone is connected to once the signal goes to 2G.
I believe an app had recently came out that showed coverage details and it started picking up signals from these fake towers and marking them on the apps coverage map.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:20 am to Willie Stroker
Would it be easier for agencies of the US Government to do the legal work needed to warrant to intercept through the proper channels and from the phone companies or easier to install a temporary cell to get what they need?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:25 am to wickowick
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Would it be easier for agencies of the US Government to do the legal work needed to warrant to intercept through the proper channels and from the phone companies or easier to install a temporary cell to get what they need?
Considering what's already in place between the NSA's data collection capabilities and the agreements with the various phone companies, I think it's safe to say this isn't the Feds doing it.
This is being done by either a private entity or a foreign power.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:28 am to wickowick
Probably not if the purpose is to cast a wide net. Sometimes it's more efficient to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:57 am to polizei11
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100% chance it is our own government.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:07 am to PrimeTime Money
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How would a foreign entity to about setting up cell towers? Don't you need permits and whatnot for that stuff?
Permits are acquired every day by company's, some foreign, some domestic. Our government's grasp on what goes on in its borders is very tenuous despite all our spending on "security" measures. Bureaucracies are inefficient by their very nature and all of the funding that was poured into our intelligence services has created a very bloated bureaucracy.
It won't surprise me to hear these are being run by either our own government or a foreign entity. The fact that we can trust our own government as much as we can trust Russia or China or even Israel should be disheartening to citizens here, but most will never even be aware.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:29 am to AUin02
It is our own government. Even local law enforcement are using these things. There's an article out there somewhere.
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