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The Western World Did Not Win the Cold War
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:30 pm
While the evil empire that was the Soviet Union may have been sent straight to the pits of hell, the philosophies that dominated behind the Iron Curtain are alive and well, especially in the West.
-The soviet union was an Atheist state, and Atheism is currently the fastest growing viewpoint of spirituality in Western countries.
-The soviet union was centrally planned economically, and young people today want more government involvement in their economic lives than ever before. Daycare, healthcare, housing, diapers, tampons, food. Type in "high cost of item x" on Google, and you'll find and article in the Atlantic or Huffpost about how we need that item to be nationalized. Rolling stone recently had an article about how we need the government to give everybody a job.
-The Soviet Union spied on its citizens, and had a police force which had no limits on its practices. The Western World resembles that currently.
-The soviet family was not nearly as valued as the collective. Today, in America and the West, there are more single people than married people, (first time in America, in fact), and the concept of "family values" is laughed off the stage.
-The word profit now has a negative connotation, which is straight out of Marxist teachings.
-The 300 year old union of Scotland and England is now threatened because Scotland doesn't think England is socialist enough.
If the west won the cold war and the battle of ideas, then victory was short lived, because the philosophic ghosts of Marxism and Statism are making a swift comeback, and they are doing so by exploiting peoples emotions.
I guess Rudyard Kipling was right:
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
-The soviet union was an Atheist state, and Atheism is currently the fastest growing viewpoint of spirituality in Western countries.
-The soviet union was centrally planned economically, and young people today want more government involvement in their economic lives than ever before. Daycare, healthcare, housing, diapers, tampons, food. Type in "high cost of item x" on Google, and you'll find and article in the Atlantic or Huffpost about how we need that item to be nationalized. Rolling stone recently had an article about how we need the government to give everybody a job.
-The Soviet Union spied on its citizens, and had a police force which had no limits on its practices. The Western World resembles that currently.
-The soviet family was not nearly as valued as the collective. Today, in America and the West, there are more single people than married people, (first time in America, in fact), and the concept of "family values" is laughed off the stage.
-The word profit now has a negative connotation, which is straight out of Marxist teachings.
-The 300 year old union of Scotland and England is now threatened because Scotland doesn't think England is socialist enough.
If the west won the cold war and the battle of ideas, then victory was short lived, because the philosophic ghosts of Marxism and Statism are making a swift comeback, and they are doing so by exploiting peoples emotions.
I guess Rudyard Kipling was right:
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
idc
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
-The soviet union was an Atheist state, and Atheism is currently the fastest growing viewpoint of spirituality in Western countries.
This is a world wide trend...access to more information, ideas and customs. People are no longer growing up isolated...except in many muslim countries where you see religion thriving and that access restricted.
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The soviet union was centrally planned economically, and young people today want more government involvement in their economic lives than ever before. Daycare, healthcare, housing, diapers, tampons, food. Type in "high cost of item x" on Google, and you'll find and article in the Atlantic or Huffpost about how we need that item to be nationalized. Rolling stone recently had an article about how we need the government to give everybody a job.
Gov't wants more power, people want more stuff. People are willing to trade votes for what they want. These are universal truths. Also, Inflation is at historically low levels. What does the US political enviroment and inflation levels have to do with Russia?
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-The Soviet Union spied on its citizens, and had a police force which had no limits on its practices. The Western World resembles that currently.
You're assuming that this hasn't been taking place all along. The only thing that's changed is your ability to access informaiton and the methods.
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-The soviet family was not nearly as valued as the collective. Today, in America and the West, there are more single people than married people, (first time in America, in fact), and the concept of "family values" is laughed off the stage.
See the religoious issue, times and beleifs are changing. Let's try and pinpoint just ONE thing that might not be the USSR leading to this...Women in the workplace. How much has changed in that aspect since the cold war? Could that effect...nah frick it russians.
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-The word profit now has a negative connotation, which is straight out of Marxist teachings.
Says who?
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-The 300 year old union of Scotland and England is now threatened because Scotland doesn't think England is socialist enough.
Again, the Russians? Scotland has been dominated by the Labour party for years...Texas isn't liberal enough for California...so again...HOW THE frick DOES THIS INVOLVE THE RUSSIANS.
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If the west won the cold war and the battle of ideas, then victory was short lived, because the philosophic ghosts of Marxism and Statism are making a swift comeback, and they are doing so by exploiting peoples emotions.
Are you on drugs? What kind? Can I have some?
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The 300 year old union of Scotland and England is now threatened because Scotland doesn't think England is socialist enough.
Since when is freedom of determination a Soviet cause?
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Atheism is currently the fastest growing viewpoint of spirituality
Would seem a lack of. And we need better examples of a good spiritual life led than we have had of late.
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. Rolling stone recently had
Really
C'mon. And profit is not dead by a long shot.
We won USSR lost eastern euro's are free (to screw up or not)
Merica
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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While the evil empire that was the Soviet Union may have been sent straight to the pits of hell
I should have stopped reading right there.
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Today, in America and the West, there are more single people than married people, (first time in America, in fact)
And this matters, because...?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
That's only three things.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:48 pm to UL-SabanRival
quote:The next stanza has the fourth, but I appreciate your interest in the actual content of my post.
That's only three things.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
-The soviet union was an Atheist state, and Atheism is currently the fastest growing viewpoint of spirituality in Western countries.
Less than ten percent of Europe calls themselves Christian. The trend is not new at all. The abuses within the church, not wanting to offend Muslims, higher level of educated people. All lead to less
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:51 pm to Freder
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And this matters, because...?
Just a guess, but I'd posit pole smokers and fatherless homes are probably not the optimal situation for producing successful tax payers. Just my $0.02.
Oh, I know you're going to respond with the two gay guys in NJ who've supported an orphanage, but that type of anecdotal evidence is useless when you realize we're abandoning the habits and morals that got us here.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The word profit now has a negative connotation
Where do people come up with this stuff?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:55 pm to The Spleen
quote:LINK
The word profit now has a negative connotation
Where do people come up with this stuff?
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:56 pm to BaylorTiger
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This is a world wide trend...access to more information, ideas and customs. People are no longer growing up isolated...except in many muslim countries where you see religion thriving and that access restricted.
Atheism isn't growing because of a free exchange of ideas. Atheism is growing because it appeals to the "have it your way" generations which currently are proliferating.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 2:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No worries. Rocky IV will just need to be re-released in theaters. Problem solved.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:01 pm to BaylorTiger
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-The word profit now has a negative connotation, which is straight out of Marxist teachings. Says who?
Obamacare. Health care should be free. In fact, everything should be free.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:04 pm to the808bass
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Atheism isn't growing because of a free exchange of ideas. Atheism is growing because it appeals to the "have it your way" generations which currently are proliferating.
No, Atheism is growing because more people aren't simple accepting what their parents taught them. They are finding it easier to see and experience other world views more easily than previous generations.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:04 pm to genro
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LINK
That was a parade of envious people.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:09 pm to Freder
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Atheism is growing because more people aren't simple accepting what their parents taught them.
Negative Ghostrider. You guys are just tone deaf and colorblind.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:27 pm to NoNameNeeded
When I saw you posted this, I didn't read it. Like most of the crap you post, its not readable. Find a job and quit with all the useless BS.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:28 pm to the808bass
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Atheism isn't growing because of a free exchange of ideas. Atheism is growing because it appeals to the "have it your way" generations which currently are proliferating.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 9/16/14 at 3:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
wow...just wow...so now we lost the cold war despite the fact that the evil empire is in the dustbin of history.
You truly aren't good at this.
You truly aren't good at this.
This post was edited on 9/16/14 at 3:45 pm
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