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Why the sudden loss of faith in pro offenses? I do believe offense is all Miles

Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:10 pm
The problem with the offense is Miles. THat much is clear. Cam never ran anything like last night at any other point in his career. I just can't believe he isn't looking for a better gig, but it's probably because all of his NFL bridges are burned, so he's forced to be handcuffed by Miles IMO.

However, the pro offense isn't to blame here. I remember not too long ago people were PRAYING for us to go back to a pro offense because the spread was such a clusterfrick under Crowton. Anybody see the consistency here?

The pro offense is run by Stanford pretty damn well. Arky just ran over some motherfrickers yesterday. Is the I-form outdated to them? Do we need to mix it up? sure. But the problem isn't I-form. The problem is as follows:

1. Personnel (WRS and TES) determine what play it is. So predictable.
2. We can't execute PA and screens. This makes our offense impossible not to be pathetic.
3. It's clear that OL just doesn't' develop at LSU. I mean, I can't blame CRob and Jerry Tillery for having questions about playing OL for Les. It's clear that all of our OLinemen struggle in the Miles era.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:11 pm to
I challenge you to have ONE positive post about this LSU team. I believe you can do it.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72872 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:12 pm to
Les has clearly swiped the playcalling from Cameron. We are in for a long year on offense.
Posted by LSUSoulja08
Member since Oct 2007
16969 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:16 pm to
Wasn't one of Cameron's first comments when he was made OC was he was taking the pitch dive out of our playbook?
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:16 pm to
You start entirely too many threads. And not a single one has ever been good.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38215 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:18 pm to
Do you really think they were playing that hard? Like seriously?

The offensive line and coaches saw what happened to Pocic and they don't want to get injured.

Do you seriously think that they needed to go 4 wide and light up ULM? It's called playing conservative.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:18 pm to
I hate this "everything good is cam, everything bad is Les: approach.

Lets get more than 3 games into the season before we decide we are never throwing the ball again.

And if we throw the ball with less that stellar results, lets remember that we were begging for it at the begging in of the year.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:18 pm to
It truly is a mystery how Miles is able to remember the entire playbook without a single playsheet on the sidelines.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40420 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:19 pm to
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The pro offense is run by Stanford pretty damn well.


If the LSU offense put up an offensive performance like Stanford did vs USC, do you think people would be happy with that?

quote:

1. Personnel (WRS and TES) determine what play it is. So predictable.


No kidding against ULM. They will throw some loopholes against real teams.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45138 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:20 pm to
When we have a bad play, it's Les.

Good play = Cam
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:22 pm to
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3. It's clear that OL just doesn't' develop at LSU. I mean, I can't blame CRob and Jerry Tillery for having questions about playing OL for Les. It's clear that all of our OLinemen struggle in the Miles era.

I still believe that if Black and Faulk don't get hurt in their final years, that would have been 2 high draft picks at OL. Faulk in particular was dumb to bolt when he did when different people were advising him not to.
Posted by ipodking
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:25 pm to
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I hate this "everything good is cam, everything bad is Les: approach.


fricking this
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:26 pm to
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Les has clearly swiped the playcalling from Cameron. We are in for a long year on offense.
Right. On account of Les having a play sheet on the sidelines and all. . . Oh, wait.

Also, if we continue to score anywhere near 38 PPG and win, I'll never want this year to end.
Posted by Leadhead
Member since Jan 2013
887 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
The ignorance is strong with the rant
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
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The problem with the offense is Miles. THat much is clear. Cam never ran anything like last night at any other point in his career.

- first half of Wisc game all Miles
- second half is all Cam

When offense is not clicking, it's all Miles doing
- when offense does well, Miles is letting OC call the plays
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7943 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
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Do you really think they were playing that hard? Like seriously?


Are you serious with this shite? Good teams absolutely steamroll inferior opponents for 60 minutes, just like they're supposed to. I hate being critical because Miles' record speaks for itself. But if you're trying to make excuses for his teams playing down to the competition, and for absolutely ridiculous offensive schemes in these types of games then you're kidding yourself. Find another top 10 program over the past decade that does this year in/year out. You won't be able to find one
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Right. On account of Les having a play sheet on the sidelines and all. . . Oh, wait.

Also, if we continue to score anywhere near 38 PPG and win, I'll never want this year to end.



Right, it's clearly more likely that Cam Cameron and every other OC under Miles completely change philosophies than it is that Miles tells them what they can and can't call.

IF this really is CC's offense, then I see why Harbaugh fired him midseason and won the superbowl without his arse.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Find another top 10 program over the past decade that does this year in/year out. You won't be able to find one


Find another top 10 program over the last decade who has won more games than LSU. Oh wait..

Posted by Kickit2Peterson7
Member since Aug 2013
356 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:31 pm to
Here is a better question.Why are you consistently the most negative, most annoying,and overall worst poster every season? Every year you create these threads and it doesn't matter the topic it's just awful.
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