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Judge Barbier rules BP grossly negligent
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:49 am
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:49 am
This could mean a difference of up to like $14B in fine exposure for BP. The only way I saw it going any other way was if the judge was corrupt. Lying about the flow rate is pretty much all I needed to hear.
ABC News Article
If you are a more technical person and don't mind heavy reading, the Findings of Facts and Conclusions can be read here:
LINK
ETA to Admins: I posted this here because it greatly affected those of us who fish the gulf. If you feel the need to move it to the polishitshow board, I understand.
ABC News Article
If you are a more technical person and don't mind heavy reading, the Findings of Facts and Conclusions can be read here:
LINK
ETA to Admins: I posted this here because it greatly affected those of us who fish the gulf. If you feel the need to move it to the polishitshow board, I understand.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 11:51 am
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:57 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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polishitshow board
I snickered..
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:00 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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profit-driven decisions
Why would they not? This isn't a charity
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:05 pm to Boats n Hose
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Why would they not? This isn't a charity
That is what you take from the decision?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:14 pm to Artie Rome
I didn't read most of it.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:54 pm to Boats n Hose
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Why would they not? This isn't a charity
Selling meth to a child is a profit-driven decision, too.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
quote:Shhhh...
Selling meth to a child is a profit-driven decision, too.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:55 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Also, Brits on the internet are a bunch of salty xenophobes from what I can tell.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:19 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Read something a couple days ago that Halliburton settled for like $1.1 billion. Looks like a lot of this is finally coming to an end.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:34 pm to PillageUrVillage
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Looks like a lot of this is finally coming to an end.
I doubt this will come to an end for the next 10-20 years.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:37 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I doubt this will come to an end for the next 10-20 years.
I doubt it will last 20 years but I could see it going another 10. Claims are starting to be paid again
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:39 pm to weisertiger
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I doubt it will last 20 years but I could see it going another 10. Claims are starting to be paid again
BP is currently trying to oust the claims manager.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:42 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Where does is say they lied about the flow rate? Not doubting you, just dont see it in either link.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 2:49 pm to weisertiger
(no message)
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:10 pm to boom roasted
You are right it’s a company not a charity but there are 2 major items that BP was willing to take risk on – the first are the deaths of 11 men, the second is the risk of well failure based on changes from what subcontractors proposed to seal well (Transocean is also at fault for a non functional BOP). If BP does not do a proper risk assessment and we have a Macondo they are liable – if they are a risk adverse company and do a proper risk assessment none of this happens. Its all part of business – just as the fine for being negligent is
BTW I hope there are management at BP and Transocean have troubling sleeping at night over what happened …………. The money is the least of the concerns
BTW I hope there are management at BP and Transocean have troubling sleeping at night over what happened …………. The money is the least of the concerns
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:16 pm to Boats n Hose
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profit-driven decisions
quote:
Why would they not? This isn't a charity
Those decisions were in breach of standard practices. Short version...BP knowingly cut corners, creating unreasonably dangerous conditions, for the sake of greater profit. It's as close to intentional injury (murder, in this instance) as one can get. "Gross negligence" is acting with basically no regard for the safety of others. Bad shite.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I posted this here because it greatly affected those of us who fish the gulf.
No problem
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If you feel the need to move it to the polishitshow board, I understand.
I leave that for other admins. I only hang out with the cool posters except when I get Soccer and fantasy board duties.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 3:57 pm to TigerFred
quote:Do yall draw straws for that?
except when I get Soccer and fantasy board duties
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:16 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Ok, so all these companies were negligent? Yeah, right....
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:20 pm to TheGreat318
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Where does is say they lied about the flow rate? Not doubting you, just dont see it in either link.
I'm not sure if it is included in this ruling or not. I only got through about 60 pages of the Findings and Conclusions today, but it has been covered:
62,000 >>>> 5,000 > 1,000
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